Kickbacks for Affiliation

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  • #103968
    CasinoGod WANTED $6
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    Lifeslots wrote:

    So let me get this right. chip earns money through affiliation and uses that money to stream and therefore is fake.

    Absolutely fucking not, what a ridiculous thing to insinuate.

    If I work for Tesco, that means when I pay for my shopping on a Friday night it’s free because in a stupidly round about way the money I’ve earned from Tesco working is Tesco’s money and I’m using it to spend in Tesco ???

    Chip earns his affiliation which the NDA he is talking about consists of a few deal affiliates get offered, you can choose a fixed fee per sign up or a percentage of a players loss over the course of there gambling history- FACT because my partner is a casino affiliate, earns money and uses it to stream.
    Does that make it fake, does it Bollox. You decide whether to pay the mortgage with that affiliation money or stream with it or do whatever but it’s like using your wages at your place of work ?!?

    This topic will go on forever because people have there own issues with gambling and it can and does ruin lives and families, but at the same toss of the coin so does alcohol but no ones abusing the local landlord right? No, he’s trying to make a living in the trade he’s in.
    What is absolutley paramount is the fact that streamers help people not to gamble more than to actually push them to gamble, I for one don’t gamble anywhere near as much now I watch Bandit, Chip, Rolla, Nick and of course the best streamers by a country mile Labowsky and Spintwix.

    Peace Out

    This not correct at all sorry. He does not decide anything, the agreement is he does the video  per day and gets the Fee to cover his deposit. He can’t spend it any ware else.

    Its not just affiliation, its a fixed £500 fee per video to cover his deposits. Totally different.

    F A K E M O N E Y

    #103971
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    Looked at a couple off his casinos last nite . And would love to know , when he makes the deposits at spinson and playluck for 500 pound , how much they charge for deposit . Because I put £25 in playluck charge is 80p . £50 charge is £1.60 . Oh and then they charge to withdraw . Does he get treated differently,  or is the casino just putting the money in for him .

    #103966
    CasinoGod WANTED $6
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    Nobody cares about his affiliated earnings.

    Getting a Fee per video he makes to cover is deposit is totally different!

    it’s FAKE money.

    #103970
    Lifeslots WANTED $58
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    @bigbucks

    Chip said it himself on here “

    All of my casino offers are not able to be discussed as they are under an NDA.

    I will say back to you if someone earns £500 from affiliation and makes a video with that money is it any different?

    He said It himself, earning money from affiliation and using it to stream?????

    Nothing said about some fictional £500 cold hard cash per video to cover deposits, someone has made that up. He streams 6 times a week and @£500 a stream plus the other videos in between would nett him £5000+ a week!! Does that sound anywhere near realistic for videos with max 20k views and 40k subs for someone to be paid upwards of £1/4million a year.

    I’ve just gotta laugh at that one ?

    #103978
    bigbucks1983 WANTED $46
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    Lifeslots wrote:

    @bigbucks

    Chip said it himself on here “

    All of my casino offers are not able to be discussed as they are under an NDA.

    I will say back to you if someone earns £500 from affiliation and makes a video with that money is it any different?

    He said It himself, earning money from affiliation and using it to stream?????

    Nothing said about some fictional £500 cold hard cash per video to cover deposits, someone has made that up. He streams 6 times a week and @£500 a stream plus the other videos in between would nett him £5000+ a week!! Does that sound anywhere near realistic for videos with max 20k views and 40k subs for someone to be paid upwards of £1/4million a year.

    I’ve just gotta laugh at that one ?

    I cannot understand how you’re taking that statement as admission to using affiliation money. It 100% isnt, he posed a hypothetical alternative as a justification.

    If he used affiliation money to stream, that would not be something to skirt around. Its straight forward, I earn x from affiliation and use it for my videos, like the example you used for shopping with your wages, that wouldn’t be under an NDA as it would be his money at that point. He only streams on a couple of casinos, but the affiliation money comes in from many casinos so it really would be just a deposit from earnings so no need for the secrecy.

    He’s depositing around 10k a week in all fairness, let’s say he loses 6k of that, 25k a month loss. Which scenario sounds more likely,

    1- he receives a fee per video or some other arrangement that reduces all risk to him and the casinos. Now the agreement for those casino(s) is he can’t withdraw or its capped. Suddenly the casino are not losing nor is chip and he can produce unlimited content. While doing this he keeps the affiliation money from all other casinos he promotes. He can argue its not play money because he’s depositing real funds, he just can’t withdraw or his fees are netted against withdrawals. Definitely can afford his losses like that as they aren’t real.

    2- he uses his affiliation money to fund the videos. As you said, 20k views 40k subs so you realise how much money he needs to be making from affiliation to drop 25k of it in losses every month? Even with Deposit bonuses. If he was earning that sort of money do you really think just a few months ago he’d be talking about getting a mortgage. Damn you’d buy the house outright in 6 months.

    Further considering the stakes and his admitted struggles only a year ago, his channel hasn’t increased in size enough to suddenly drop the money it is from affiliation, the growth isn’t there.

    Which scenario sounds more likely?

    #103980
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    So on playluck and spinson  for a 500 deposit they charge £12.50.  It’s a joke . U  think he getting charged that every deposit . And he would be happy with that ?

    #103991
    CasinoGod WANTED $6
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    Someone has reached out who codes websites for a living and  said this, it pretty much confirms what we have been thinking.

    If you look on his website, none of the Casinos in this brand, “Spinz”, “Winston Bet”, “Awsome Spins” or “Jungle Spins” have affiliate tracking ID’s in the URL.  Have a look.

    Homepage

    This is what every URL will look like, each link has a code on it

    This is what Winston, Spinz, Jungle, Awsome look like:

    He is not tracking the visits to these casinos, so that means he does not get paid for  sign ups to them. Why would he do that?

    Because he’s on the fixed fee / deposit cover per video. There is no reason why he would be promoting Casinos that he cannot get affiliate earnings from so this means he must be getting paid some other way.

    None of THOSE dodgy ones he gets the fixed fee per video have this tracking. Have a look…

    So why? Why could he possibly send traffic to that casinos for free without his affiliate ID? Because  he’s getting paid outside the normal scope for them.

     

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    #104003
    Xbobmad WANTED $729
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    CasinoGod wrote:

    Someone has reached out who codes websites for a living and  said this, it pretty much confirms what we have been thinking.

    If you look on his website, none of the Casinos in this brand, “Spinz”, “Winston Bet”, “Awsome Spins” or “Jungle Spins” have affiliate tracking ID’s in the URL.  Have a look.

    Home Page

    <iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” style=”position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);” title=”“Home Page” — Chipmonk Slotz” src=”https://chipmonkzslots.com/embed#?secret=5CVp24NHX0&#8243; width=”600″ height=”338″ frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no” sandbox=”allow-scripts” data-secret=”5CVp24NHX0″></iframe>

    This is what every URL will look like, each link has a code on it

    This is what Winston, Spinz, Jungle, Awsome look like:

    He is not tracking the visits to these casinos, so that means he does not get paid for  sign ups to them. Why would he do that?

    Because he’s on the fixed fee / deposit cover per video. There is no reason why he would be promoting Casinos that he cannot get affiliate earnings from so this means he must be getting paid some other way.

    None of THOSE dodgy ones he gets the fixed fee per video have this tracking. Have a look…

    So why? Why could he possibly send traffic to that casinos for free without his affiliate ID? Because  he’s getting paid outside the normal scope for them.

     

    Have you signed up to one of these casinos and lost a wedge? Or just being a dick for the sake of being a dick? Either way you and your little group of accounts here and elsewhere are getting really frustrating.

    Look, I get if you don’t like a particular streamer, but guess what, you can just not watch them! All you’re doing in your idiotic fight is make more people watch what you’re trying to stop out of curiosity ??????

    #104004
    Dynamik23 WANTED $82
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    CasinoGod wrote:

    Someone has reached out who codes websites for a living and  said this, it pretty much confirms what we have been thinking.

    If you look on his website, none of the Casinos in this brand, “Spinz”, “Winston Bet”, “Awsome Spins” or “Jungle Spins” have affiliate tracking ID’s in the URL.  Have a look.

    Home Page

    <iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” style=”position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);” title=”“Home Page” — Chipmonk Slotz” src=”https://chipmonkzslots.com/embed#?secret=5CVp24NHX0&#8243; width=”600″ height=”338″ frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no” sandbox=”allow-scripts” data-secret=”5CVp24NHX0″></iframe>

    This is what every URL will look like, each link has a code on it

    This is what Winston, Spinz, Jungle, Awsome look like:

    He is not tracking the visits to these casinos, so that means he does not get paid for  sign ups to them. Why would he do that?

    Because he’s on the fixed fee / deposit cover per video. There is no reason why he would be promoting Casinos that he cannot get affiliate earnings from so this means he must be getting paid some other way.

    None of THOSE dodgy ones he gets the fixed fee per video have this tracking. Have a look…

    So why? Why could he possibly send traffic to that casinos for free without his affiliate ID? Because  he’s getting paid outside the normal scope for them.

     

    I have no idea how to verify this stuff, I’m useless on computers. Chip has stated that he doesn’t get paid a fee per video. Of course he could be lying but it could be the truth aswell. Have you checked other people’s sites  like Craig and Jimbos to compare? We know for sure they are affiliates who get some sort of money from losses from their players. Now chip has said he doesn’t get paid a fee I’m.more inclined to believe him as its better for him to just stay silent, now if he is lying he will get more.shit and if he is telling the truth the ones who just hate him are gonna hate him more. If he doesn’t get paid per video or get % of his players losses the only other thing is maybe a monthly contract. So is employed by the casinos. Whether this is even a thing, I don’t know? In my opinion, if he is just getting affiliation money and is using that to gamble then it’s all good. Like others have mentioned if it’s a fee per video or my suggestion of a monthly fee/wage then I’m on the fence. It doesn’t really show the true nature of gambling which in turn doesn’t promote responsible gambling. Also I would like a answer on how multiple.people can play on one account. This clearly breaks TOS so I don’t like that fact it’s one rule for one and one rule for another. Any chance this question can be answered by you chip?

    #104007
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    During lockdown . He said to Jordan who was in the chat , because off lockdown . There should be a balance on Winston bet if u wanna crack on and do a bonus hunt . I knew then , and with what rolla said , sort off confirmed it .

    #103979
    aaloases WANTED $7
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    surprised it took this long to come out; I exposed this on gamblers den and casino grounds months ago as Jimbo accidentally grassed chip up by saying he only plays at proper casinos and turned down awesome spins offer on the reasons discussed in this forum.

    Asked for clarification of the deal and Jimbo went radio silent; either way chip has done well out of it he is buying his house, spent 11k on one box of chewing gum cards so good luck to him and like he says you hate me cause you aint me!

    #103983
    Lifeslots WANTED $58
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    @bigbucks

    Completley understand your points and I’m nothing to do with chip so am on no ones side persay.

    So if I give chip £500 to make a video and the deal is that he advertises my company logo on the banner does that make the £500 deposit fake ?

    Its still real money even if he is getting paid £500 for putting the videos up, there’s nothing fake about it.

    Whether it’s morally right or wrong or whether we all agree or not it allows him to create free content for us to watch and gives him a living.

    Hes never earned a penny off me other than getting a ‘view’ on YouTube but then so has a bloke chopping an onion I watched last night.

    #104019
    Kelvie WANTED $45
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    ?? wtf Have I done? This was about affiliation but a few on you couldn’t help yerself but talk about me. Catching up on the latest gambling gossip and theres people saying I use Jord ? You Don’t even know me judged me on my fake youtube name. Fannys

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    #104020
    Steller WANTED $34
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    I could not care less if Chip is paid money for each video or any other way makes money from his steaming. None of my damn business!

    A couple of years ago he made it quite clear about his ambition to make a living by streaming his gambling videos and he’s gone on to do just that, so fair play to him.

    At the end of the day he lives or dies by pulling in and  keep on entertaining enough people for his channel to a success and so far he’s doing just that.

    He always mentions the links for GamStop and tells viewers to gamble responsibly and not to try high stakes, so if anyone falls into a gambling problem it is their fault, not Chips, just as it was my fault and not the bookies when I had my problems.

    The only really 100% “clean” gamblers who post videos online are those who post their bookies and arcade vids to entertain people at home and not interested in making money from them – buddylove just loves playing slots and 7 neighbours is doing a good job these days with his vids.

     

     

     

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    #104021
    James1888 WANTED $16
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    Kelvie wrote:

    ?? wtf Have I done? This was about affiliation but a few on you couldn’t help yerself but talk about me. Catching up on the latest gambling gossip and theres people saying I use Jord ? You Don’t even know me judged me on my fake youtube name. Fannys

    Well said. It’s time they found a hobby. Fanny’s indeed ??

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