Waging requirements question.

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  • #49949
    Haz40 WANTED $1,166
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    I think most of us know when accepting a bonus on a site there are waging requirements attached. 35 or 40 times on many. After reading carefully though I regularly see games which don’t contribute to the wagering. One in particular is a game called blood suckers. I’ve never heard of it. Never played it. Any idea why this game doesn’t contribute on so many sites. Does it have a higher than average rtp or is it the game makers. I don’t think it’s a jackpot game. Has anyone played this game and is it any good. Another one is beautiful bones which I never played either. Can anyone shed any light as to why certain games don’t contribute to the wagering requirements. Just curious more than anything.

    #49952
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    I think they need to look at games that don’t contribute to wagering , because a lot off them have secret of the stones and Dead or alive not counting towards wagering . Well there shit games for wagering .

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    #49955
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Up to the casino which games don’t count towards wagering (or in some cases, can’t be played with bonus funds at all). It’s always either the RTP being much higher than normal (e.g. Dead or Alive) or that it’s a very low volatility game which will float your balance almost indefinitely; basically any game where you’d be able to beat the wagering without taking much if any risk to your balance.

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    #49964
    blacko1974 WANTED $248
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    I think they seriously need to look into the whole wagering requirements terms and conditions, it fucking irates me when I read of a forum member who has had his winnings hoovered from him because he/she has bought a chilli bonus which in turn has broken the conditions. features such as this should flash up a warning telling the player that he will be breaching the conditions is he/she continues. Slotting is meant to be fun, you shouldn’t have to pore over T@Cs or spend hours combing through lists of played stakes shitting yourself that you have broken a rule somewhere along the way.

    Shouldn’t be too hard to implement that, should it!. It’s not as if we are asking them to break the fucking enigma code.

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    #49966
    Mr B WANTED $395
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    I kind of agree that you should be able to play any slots, except for when they do feature slot bonuses. I guess they can do whatever they want but to exclude one or two games out of hundreds seems petty but maybe there is some defined reason behind it that maybe they find embarrassing or something so they don’t explain why. It could well be the game maker said no or the casino said no because said machine is on a watch/study list.. or some other reason.

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    #49967
    Haz40 WANTED $1,166
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    Last year i deposited £50 at 32 red with 320% bonus. I had 3 spins on roulette about £10. I got up to 2k and tried to withdraw 1.8k. I broke the t’s and c’s by betting more than £5. I thought the max stake was only on slots and not on roulette. I received an email which said I had to stake the 1.8k 40 times 72k to be eligible for a withdrawal. Needless to say I didn’t manage it.

    #49971
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    blacko1974 wrote:

    I think they seriously need to look into the whole wagering requirements terms and conditions, it fucking irates me when I read of a forum member who has had his winnings hoovered from him because he/she has bought a chilli bonus which in turn has broken the conditions. features such as this should flash up a warning telling the player that he will be breaching the conditions is he/she continues. Slotting is meant to be fun, you shouldn’t have to pore over T@Cs or spend hours combing through lists of played stakes shitting yourself that you have broken a rule somewhere along the way.

    Shouldn’t be too hard to implement that, should it!. It’s not as if we are asking them to break the fucking enigma code.

    Only play slots and keep the spend per spin below £5. You do that, you’ll be within the bonus terms on every major casino. It’s not really technically feasible to do something like show a warning on the game if you up the stake, since the game is hosted by the provider and they have no idea whether or not you’re using bonus money; that’s between you and the casino. The terms are the way they are because casinos still have to pay the provider their share of the player’s losses on a game, even if it was entirely casino-awarded bonus money they played with.

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    #49974
    Ezekiel2517 WANTED $15
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    I love Bloodsuckers   great for a fun slot , pays features regularly, never hammers the balance.

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    #49977
    blacko1974 WANTED $248
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    argyl53 wrote:

    blacko1974 wrote:

    I think they seriously need to look into the whole wagering requirements terms and conditions, it fucking irates me when I read of a forum member who has had his winnings hoovered from him because he/she has bought a chilli bonus which in turn has broken the conditions. features such as this should flash up a warning telling the player that he will be breaching the conditions is he/she continues. Slotting is meant to be fun, you shouldn’t have to pore over T@Cs or spend hours combing through lists of played stakes shitting yourself that you have broken a rule somewhere along the way.

    Shouldn’t be too hard to implement that, should it!. It’s not as if we are asking them to break the fucking enigma code.

    Only play slots and keep the spend per spin below £5. You do that, you’ll be within the bonus terms on every major casino. It’s not really technically feasible to do something like show a warning on the game if you up the stake, since the game is hosted by the provider and they have no idea whether or not you’re using bonus money; that’s between you and the casino. The terms are the way they are because casinos still have to pay the provider their share of the player’s losses on a game, even if it was entirely casino-awarded bonus money they played with.

    As usual lad you make perfect sense, I can see now why that option isn’t feasible. I think however that the casinos have avoided paying out tasty sums of money by using this little loophole.

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    #49981
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    Oh yes, I’ve no doubt whatsoever any casino will jump at the chance to refuse a withdrawal by citing some violation of T&Cs, that’s why it’s so important players read them and know what they’re getting in to. It’s the same with document verification; there are many good, reputable casinos who won’t try to stitch you on that, but there are definitely ones who will sit on the procedure for as long as they can legally get away with in the hope you’ll reverse and lose before they have to pay you. The sensible thing to do there is submit your documents, carefully checking first they meet all requirements and can’t be rejected for some petty reason, then immediately request a 7 day timeout on your account so you can’t reverse.

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    #49985
    Geezawin WANTED $270
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    argyl53 wrote:

    blacko1974 wrote:

    I think they seriously need to look into the whole wagering requirements terms and conditions, it fucking irates me when I read of a forum member who has had his winnings hoovered from him because he/she has bought a chilli bonus which in turn has broken the conditions. features such as this should flash up a warning telling the player that he will be breaching the conditions is he/she continues. Slotting is meant to be fun, you shouldn’t have to pore over T@Cs or spend hours combing through lists of played stakes shitting yourself that you have broken a rule somewhere along the way.

    Shouldn’t be too hard to implement that, should it!. It’s not as if we are asking them to break the fucking enigma code.

    Only play slots and keep the spend per spin below £5. You do that, you’ll be within the bonus terms on every major casino. It’s not really technically feasible to do something like show a warning on the game if you up the stake, since the game is hosted by the provider and they have no idea whether or not you’re using bonus money; that’s between you and the casino. The terms are the way they are because casinos still have to pay the provider their share of the player’s losses on a game, even if it was entirely casino-awarded bonus money they played with.

    im pretty sure i heard nickslots say on a stream that calzone games will not allow u to play over £5 stakes when wagering he said it was impossible but dunno how they do this . also there is one casino redbet i think only allows £2 max on wagering

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    #49988
    bigsteve7272 WANTED $6
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    Hi there,

    Another thing to watch out for is the ‘conversion rate’ which so many casinos hide in their t & C’s. Some offer 100% match on your bonus, but will only allow you to take 4x your bonus amount out as winnings…..if your bonus is £50 and the conversion rate is 4x, the most you can leave with is £200, watch out for these,

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    #49994
    argyl53 WANTED $419
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    im pretty sure i heard nickslots say on a stream that calzone games will not allow u to play over £5 stakes when wagering he said it was impossible but dunno how they do this . also there is one casino redbet i think only allows £2 max on wagering

    Yeah, forgot about Redbet but they’re the only casino I’ve personally encountered which have a lower bonus stake limit than £5. Obviously always read the terms specific to whatever casino you’re on.

    Casinos can stop you playing a game with bonus money and stop you staking over a certain amount, since there is background communication with both the casino and provider every time you spin. So when you spin, the casino can reject the bet entirely on their end. I suppose if they wanted to, they could bring up some sort of overlay on your screen to tell you that you were violating their terms if you went over a certain stake with bonus funds in your account, I was just saying the actual game, which is an iframe on the provider’s side, couldn’t do it.

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    #49997
    blacko1974 WANTED $248
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    bigsteve7272 wrote:

    Hi there,

    Another thing to watch out for is the ‘conversion rate’ which so many casinos hide in their t & C’s. Some offer 100% match on your bonus, but will only allow you to take 4x your bonus amount out as winnings…..if your bonus is £50 and the conversion rate is 4x, the most you can leave with is £200, watch out for these,

    That happened to me with Nektan lad, Rhino went off it’s tits with multipliers everywhere 2 times, ended up with £2000. The second I played by wagering the balance corrected itself to £200. I had the £2000 spent in my mind lol. Bored the tits off Andy moaning about it last night and that was over a year ago.

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    andywilliams1187 WANTED $398
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