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26th April 2019 at 10:23 pm #62710
Here me out on this one. Yes people play online for the chance of that 1000x win or even higher but how many shit bonuses do people have to have to get that mega win. Again tonight more evidence of multiple bonuses not even paying 100x. Would it be better if they were capped at 1000x. After all reel king is capped. Would it not be better to see more 100 to 200x wins and sacrifice the one in a million chance of that 2000x win or 5000x on book of dead or book of ra for example. How many people have to lose to compensate for that one very lucky person. I know we can choose the volatility of the games we play but these games seem to be more all or nothing. So question is would you prefer games to be capped and average more 100x plus bonuses or leave them as they are.
26th April 2019 at 10:32 pm #62719I have to support this being anti capitalist but the logic is quite simple.
What the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF is the point in one person winning trillions while everyone else gets nothing after putting in as much effort. Yes, cap the max win. Bin the 1.6m jackpots. Prove it’s about that fun that many times, doesn’t even feckin start.
126th April 2019 at 10:33 pm #62721I’d prefer different games to have different styles of play, max win potential and volatility, which is basically what we have now. If every game had the same set volatility, average bonus payout and max win, what on earth would be the difference in the thousands of slot games which exist other than the graphics on them? It would make slots boring.
126th April 2019 at 10:40 pm #62722I’d prefer different games to have different styles of play, max win potential and volatility, which is basically what we have now. If every game had the same set volatility, average bonus payout and max win, what on earth would be the difference in the thousands of slot games which exist other than the graphics on them? It would make slots boring.
I played arcade slots which were capped for 20 years. Some at £100 then £200 then £500. Was never bored. Some could go on streaks of 3 jackpots in quick succession. Yes the rtp is too low which is why very rarely play them but you didn’t get zero bonuses or 1x bonuses to wind you up.
26th April 2019 at 10:44 pm #62723Having played on arcade and bookmaker’s machines extensively for well over 10 years before I stopped, I can safely say there’s nothing in the world of gambling I’d like less than for online slots to be more like FOBTs.
26th April 2019 at 10:51 pm #62727Having played on arcade and bookmaker’s machines extensively for well over 10 years before I stopped, I can safely say there’s nothing in the world of gambling I’d like less than for online slots to be more like FOBTs.
Fobts were never like arcade slots. They are now but they weren’t. Games from 2003 to 2008 were £500 jackpot at 94% rtp and could give you a good run for your money. Yes sometimes you won and sometimes you lost but they didn’t tilt you as much as online slots can. I’m neither right or wrong. Just my preference. I’m actually glad the rtp has been reduced in arcades. It’s certainly stopped me playing them. Well almost but nowhere near as much as i did years ago.
26th April 2019 at 11:17 pm #62733Haz, genuine question – what were the £500 games like in the 2003-2008 era? I think they were known as Section 16 machines back then? I only caught up with the £500s about 10 years ago and by then they were known as Section B3 (same as bookies FOBTs I think?) 10 years ago it was all Reel King, Rocky, Elvis, Cashino, Monty’s Millions etc. Barcrest and Astra were big business. Blueprint came much later on e.g. Imperial Dragon (my fave game), like around 2015. Had a really good run on the Blueprints but it went south starting 6 months ago, probably in preparation for Theresa May’s new gambling taxes.
26th April 2019 at 11:39 pm #62735Haz, genuine question – what were the £500 games like in the 2003-2008 era? I think they were known as Section 16 machines back then? I only caught up with the £500s about 10 years ago and by then they were known as Section B3 (same as bookies FOBTs I think?) 10 years ago it was all Reel King, Rocky, Elvis, Cashino, Monty’s Millions etc. Barcrest and Astra were big business. Blueprint came much later on e.g. Imperial Dragon (my fave game), like around 2015. Had a really good run on the Blueprints but it went south starting 6 months ago, probably in preparation for Theresa May’s new gambling taxes.
As they we’re 94% rtp they played ok. Mega slots and slotto we’re probably the two i played the most. Mega slots could easily double jackpot off as little as £40. Slotto could throw 7 or 8 jackpots in a weekend. Elvis and rainbow riches were around but they played so much different. Elvis could give jackpot off 3 discs. Then again then give you 5 cars for 3 quick jackpots. I’ve had jackpot from 5 guitars plenty of times. 3 leps would go round to £500 quite often and also throw a full screen in on rainbow riches.Yes they could take fast but they went over a grand paying out many times. I’ve probably had more jackpots on mega slots than any other game.
127th April 2019 at 12:12 am #62738I guess I’ll be the first to say I wouldn’t want to see games capped. For me that’s the lure of playing online slots that thin chance of hitting a mega win, you can still have good sessions and be up even if you don’t get that 1000x+ hit but it’s that chance to win a life changing amount of money and the adrenaline that comes with it; that would be lost if you knew the slot would only pay out £500 max (for example).
As you know I work in retail and I’m serving people lottery tickets daily and a question I’m asked a lot by customers normally regarding the Euro Millions is wouldn’t the lottery be better if instead of 1 person winning 100 million that 100 people won 1 million each instead. No, not really, that’s the entire appeal of the game; your placing a long shot bet on something with almost unwinnable odds, if you are lucky enough for your numbers to come in you want to be rewarded with a ridiculous prize that will set you up for life; yeah you could live off a million but the things you could do with 100 million would be a different experience altogether.
But hey, I’m a compulsive gambler and being greedy is a big part of that!
1127th April 2019 at 12:19 am #62739Hmmm.. Not sure capping the wins would encourage the player as much. Like your reel king example yes the max win is x1000 but how many players would play the game without the gamble it would be lots of small wins but lets face it the game would be turd. Am perhaps a little bias as I have won a progressive before lol, I think rhino and that other game that had the bonus guarantee was a pretty good idea then atleast you couldn’t have a ‘bonus’ pay nothing
27th April 2019 at 12:29 am #62740Hmmm.. Not sure capping the wins would encourage the player as much. Like your reel king example yes the max win is x1000 but how many players would play the game without the gamble it would be lots of small wins but lets face it the game would be turd. Am perhaps a little bias as I have won a progressive before lol, I think rhino and that other game that had the bonus guarantee was a pretty good idea then atleast you couldn’t have a ‘bonus’ pay nothing
That other game lol. You mean montezuma ?. I wouldn’t cap a game at £500 more like 1000x. Wins over that as so few and far between but i just think they do compensate for the shit bonuses. You won a progressive. Lucky git. ?
27th April 2019 at 12:37 am #62741Wins over that as so few and far between but i just think they do compensate for the shit bonuses.
Wins in the size of 2000x and above are so comparatively rare – for example, in literaly millions of real play spins on dozens of different games and hundreds of bonus features over a number of years, I only ever hit wins above 2000x three times – that I don’t think they may make as much of a dent in the overall RTP as you might think. Most of the RTP comes from your frequent small wins, as little as 1/2x, in the base game. When they’re happening every other spin it adds up to a lot in the long run. And as online slots are random, the long term RTP is just accounted for in the game design – money isn’t actually being taken from other players to fund someone else’s large bonus inside the game like a compensated fruit machine.
27th April 2019 at 12:42 am #62743Wins over that as so few and far between but i just think they do compensate for the shit bonuses.
Wins in the size of 2000x and above are so comparatively rare – for example, in literaly millions of real play spins on dozens of different games and hundreds of bonus features over a number of years, I only ever hit wins above 2000x three times – that I don’t think they may make as much of a dent in the overall RTP as you might think. Most of the RTP comes from your frequent small wins, as little as 1/2x, in the base game. When they’re happening every other spin it adds up to a lot in the long run. And as online slots are random, the long term RTP is just accounted for in the game design – money isn’t actually being taken from other players to fund someone else’s large bonus inside the game like a compensated fruit machine.
I have to say that’s my pet hate in slots nowadays. Getting a win thats gets you 10% of your stake back. What’s the point.
27th April 2019 at 12:45 am #62744Yeah the wins over x1000 may be very rare but x100 to x500 wins still happen quite often also there is a middle ground if you know what i mean.
27th April 2019 at 12:48 am #62746I guess I’ll be the first to say I wouldn’t want to see games capped. For me that’s the lure of playing online slots that thin chance of hitting a mega win, you can still have good sessions and be up even if you don’t get that 1000x+ hit but it’s that chance to win a life changing amount of money and the adrenaline that comes with it; that would be lost if you knew the slot would only pay out £500 max (for example).
As you know I work in retail and I’m serving people lottery tickets daily and a question I’m asked a lot by customers normally regarding the Euro Millions is wouldn’t the lottery be better if instead of 1 person winning 100 million that 100 people won 1 million each instead. No, not really, that’s the entire appeal of the game; your placing a long shot bet on something with almost unwinnable odds, if you are lucky enough for your numbers to come in you want to be rewarded with a ridiculous prize that will set you up for life; yeah you could live off a million but the things you could do with 100 million would be a different experience altogether.
But hey, I’m a compulsive gambler and being greedy is a big part of that!
You could start your own casino site with a 100 mil. You just couldn’t call it mr. green though.?.
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