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I’d say dynamite liver pays more often, but be my angel has bigger potential. Don’t get me wrong, i had a 1000x on £10 stake on dynamite lover, but i think you would struggle to hit them 30,000x bonuses.

 

As a suggestion for Bandit IF he does another one, i did a similar grind just not to the stakes that bandit went to. I started at 10p then increased the stake every 100 spins until i got a normal bonus, then went back to the lowest stake i didn’t already have 39 hearts on and kept doing that until I’d filled everything i wanted too. I think that cost me a lot less than it would have done than if i just increased the stakes once i had 39 hearts

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Winningbird wrote:

It was so painful to watch. I do wonder if the other side would have paid the same (if the slot is predetermined) throughout the bonuses though.

Yeah, lots have been saying that when the bonus drops the amount you’ll win is there no matter which side you pick  ……if that was true then you could sit back a bit more with the bonuses

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Bloody disgusting to be fair.  I get random bonuses not paying, and we all know you are never going to blow the doors off with every bonus but when you have built the Hearts on a massive grind, surely there should be some kind of Bonus Guarantee?

Isn’t this why they stopped the Bonus Buys?  Because it was one mahoosive rip off?

One thing is for sure, I will never play that side, IF, I ever get a bonus that is!

Enjoy the break Bandit and we will see you in May!  Been a bloody good watch and has kept us all entertained to the max!

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STH2020 wrote:

Well that was a huge letdown. I thought the hearts would act as wilds as well in the middle reels. It offers no extra bonus of the heart topper unlike the other side. Very weird

It starts on 5x multiplier rather than 1x. Someone on the forum actually worked out the improvement on both sides of the heartstopper bonus and determined that the Dynamite Lover side was probably the better one to pick based on comparing the two ‘upgrades’. Adding the heart on the other side doesn’t actually improve it by all that much at all.

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Biohazard wrote:

STH2020 wrote:

Well that was a huge letdown. I thought the hearts would act as wilds as well in the middle reels. It offers no extra bonus of the heart topper unlike the other side. Very weird

It starts on 5x multiplier rather than 1x. Someone on the forum actually worked out the improvement on both sides of the heartstopper bonus and determined that the Dynamite Lover side was probably the better one to pick based on comparing the two ‘upgrades’. Adding the heart on the other side doesn’t actually improve it by all that much at all.

That was a decent breakdown he did ..

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Seyahkram1977 wrote:

Biohazard wrote:

STH2020 wrote:

Well that was a huge letdown. I thought the hearts would act as wilds as well in the middle reels. It offers no extra bonus of the heart topper unlike the other side. Very weird

It starts on 5x multiplier rather than 1x. Someone on the forum actually worked out the improvement on both sides of the heartstopper bonus and determined that the Dynamite Lover side was probably the better one to pick based on comparing the two ‘upgrades’. Adding the heart on the other side doesn’t actually improve it by all that much at all.

That was a decent breakdown he did ..

Definitely!

Here’s a link if anyone is interested: https://www.backinamo.com/forum/topic/lil-devil-technical-analysis-best-symbol-on-be-my-angel-heartstopper-etc/

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Biohazard wrote:

Definitely!

Here’s a link if anyone is interested: https://www.backinamo.com/forum/topic/lil-devil-technical-analysis-best-symbol-on-be-my-angel-heartstopper-etc/

@thereelstory thats the one, I couldn’t think of the username lol ?

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Seyahkram1977 wrote:

Winningbird wrote:

It was so painful to watch. I do wonder if the other side would have paid the same (if the slot is predetermined) throughout the bonuses though.

Yeah, lots have been saying that when the bonus drops the amount you’ll win is there no matter which side you pick  ……if that was true then you could sit back a bit more with the bonuses

This ^

And when it happens to land big or huge, i think it’s another progressive. It’s nothing special really.

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Biohazard wrote:

STH2020 wrote:

Well that was a huge letdown. I thought the hearts would act as wilds as well in the middle reels. It offers no extra bonus of the heart topper unlike the other side. Very weird

It starts on 5x multiplier rather than 1x. Someone on the forum actually worked out the improvement on both sides of the heartstopper bonus and determined that the Dynamite Lover side was probably the better one to pick based on comparing the two ‘upgrades’. Adding the heart on the other side doesn’t actually improve it by all that much at all.

Nice theory, but the games are obviously tanked, stalled, notice the buildup of the multiplier, and like, stalls. What a great experience that was. It’s just the parameters at work. The game is doing what it was supposed todo, creating a nice expectation but the algorithm’s that are there to protect the casino’s from going bankrupt interviened.

I’ve had it too many times. Extra chilli for example, you buy your way in, you slam the spin button over and over again, till you finally hit the 24x to be tanked at barely 8x multiplier. These games are legalised bandits.

 

 

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much respect to you mate for emphasising your big loss,its painful as it is so to then use that as a warning to others is a great testament to your character..i have an autistic son as well and quite often turned to gambling as a bit of an escape from the reality of daily life the hard part is then to stop the gambling becoming the reality so im glad youre having a bit of a wind down enjoy some family time and give your head a shake,as entertaining as these videos are nobody wants to see doing your own shed in…keep it real mate bet of luck to you

 

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SlotsCrack wrote:

Nice theory, but the games are obviously tanked, stalled, notice the buildup of the multiplier, and like, stalls. What a great experience that was. It’s just the parameters at work. The game is doing what it was supposed todo, creating a nice expectation but the algorithm’s that are there to protect the casino’s from going bankrupt interviened.

I’ve had it too many times. Extra chilli for example, you buy your way in, you slam the spin button over and over again, till you finally hit the 24x to be tanked at barely 8x multiplier. These games are legalised bandits.

You do realise that people win huge on both of those games, right? Just because in your own experience you haven’t won anything worthy of note, doesn’t mean that everyone shares the exact same time.

Many BTG games, Extra Chilli is a good example, actually have each individual spin in the bonus as unique and random and not pre-determined from start to finish.

So my question back to you is, what is the difference to both the player and the provider if the bonus on Lil Devil is pre-determined or not? I’m asking this being pretty confident in what your answer will be and I will have my response ready.

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SlotsCrack wrote:

Seyahkram1977 wrote:

Winningbird wrote:

It was so painful to watch. I do wonder if the other side would have paid the same (if the slot is predetermined) throughout the bonuses though.

Yeah, lots have been saying that when the bonus drops the amount you’ll win is there no matter which side you pick  ……if that was true then you could sit back a bit more with the bonuses

This ^

And when it happens to land big or huge, i think it’s another progressive. It’s nothing special really.

I don’t believe it true personally, I believe every bonus is random and it’s wether you land on a good segment, a not so good segment or a shite segment on the  “ lucky wheel “ that predicts your outcome …I just know I’ve had good wins and thought “ yep went right side” and bad wins where I’ve said “ shit , should have gone the other side “

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Between Big Time Gaming’s twitter and others that follow them, we’ve concluded that the bonus choice MUST make a difference because the two bonuses have a different RTP

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Seyahkram1977 wrote:

I don’t believe it true personally, I believe every bonus is random and it’s wether you land on a good segment, a not so good segment or a shite segment on the  “ lucky wheel “ that predicts your outcome …I just know I’ve had good wins and thought “ yep went right side” and bad wins where I’ve said “ shit , should have gone the other side “

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You know Bandit’s latest video is a perfect example of how programmed that slot is, to see the initial anticipation of going 10x multiplier to stall right after that. This not just happens with Lil devil, but also extra chilli or any BTG based game that must have it from a big multiplier.

I think its just another progressive. Ya’ll say it sooooo random well random up to a point. Did you know how many losses it would take for the bandit to finally hit the gamble top on rheel king? I mean for every gamble loss, the lost money is in all technical details put into the gamble sub-game.

There’s a million ways to put down how a slot work, in my books it’s still money in vs money out. There’s no slot being put live actually that would cause the casino to make a loss on long term. They dont exist. They all exist because they make a guaranteed profit. The mathematics make sure of that.

I’ve seen a few cases myself; where i was simply limited to win beyond 22k. It kept me ‘wagering’ for like a good hour at least while pounding 20 a spin, it did’nt let me lose, it did’nt let me win too much either. It kind of kept me to that level, as ive seen that happen on several casino’s. It’s security kicking in.

Previous year ive won 65k in total. It could have bin way more, but i became kind of scared that the casino would not pay out and all that, so i kind of kept it cool. To my understanding i was simply hitting a bug in a game. Play long enough with a game and you’ll understand its weak points at some level. Why do you think bandit spend(ed) 12 hours on just rheel king alone. I mean that is just hardcore. But that mentality brought him alot of profit. Just dont be like him. You dont have the bankroll to take such losses.

 

 

I don’t believe it true personally, I believe every bonus is random and it’s wether you land on a good segment, a not so good segment or a shite segment on the  “ lucky wheel “ that predicts your outcome …I just know I’ve had good wins and thought “ yep went right side” and bad wins where I’ve said “ shit , should have gone the other side “

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SlotsCrack wrote:

You know Bandit’s latest video is a perfect example of how programmed that slot is, to see the initial anticipation of going 10x multiplier to stall right after that. This not just happens with Lil devil, but also extra chilli or any BTG based game that must have it from a big multiplier.

I think its just another progressive. Ya’ll say it sooooo random well random up to a point. Did you know how many losses it would take for the bandit to finally hit the gamble top on rheel king? I mean for every gamble loss, the lost money is in all technical details put into the gamble sub-game.

There’s a million ways to put down how a slot work, in my books it’s still money in vs money out. There’s no slot being put live actually that would cause the casino to make a loss on long term. They dont exist. They all exist because they make a guaranteed profit. The mathematics make sure of that.

I’ve seen a few cases myself; where i was simply limited to win beyond 22k. It kept me ‘wagering’ for like a good hour at least while pounding 20 a spin, it did’nt let me lose, it did’nt let me win too much either. It kind of kept me to that level, as ive seen that happen on several casino’s. It’s security kicking in.

Previous year ive won 65k in total. It could have bin way more, but i became kind of scared that the casino would not pay out and all that, so i kind of kept it cool. To my understanding i was simply hitting a bug in a game. Play long enough with a game and you’ll understand its weak points at some level. Why do you think bandit spend(ed) 12 hours on just rheel king alone. I mean that is just hardcore. But that mentality brought him alot of profit. Just dont be like him. You dont have the bankroll to take such losses.

Been a long time since we’ve had the old pre-determined versus random debate, aye fellas?

To put it simply, you’re wrong. There’s no “in my books it’s x”, this isn’t something that you can have an opinion on, it’s simply not how they work. They’re random.

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