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[bobbybird100 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

Hi everyone dont really post on here very often just like to read the forum most days anyways just a quick question has anyone lately had a bad run of luck I’m a low roller who deposits at most £20 so basically 20p to 40p spins and I play 3 times a week I checked the different casinos i play at and it’s been over 3 months since last having had a withdraw over £60 what’s going on normally I’d get atleast 1 withdraw every couple of weeks but 3 months is taking the piss

[thunderball6 WANTED $272 Outlaw]

Just do 1 deposit a week but 60 pound deposit , instead off 3 20 pound deposits . Better chance off hitting something good .

[ayma4quit WANTED $47 Outlaw]

thunderball6 wrote:

Just do 1 deposit a week but 60 pound deposit , instead off 3 20 pound deposits . Better chance off hitting something good .

How have you got a better chance of hitting something good depositing 1 x £60 as opposed to 3 x £20 when each spin is completely random???….. Id say you have exactly the same chance either way or am I missing something??

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

You’ll get more spins in the one session which gives you a better chance overall. It’s like buying 10 tickets for the same lottery draw instead of 1 ticket each for 10 separate draws.

[Winningbird WANTED $574 Outlaw]

I would agree with the £60, but stick to your stakes. Don’t be tempted to raise them just because you have more funds than usual. Good luck for your next session.

[ayma4quit WANTED $47 Outlaw]

argyl53 wrote:

You’ll get more spins in the one session which gives you a better chance overall. It’s like buying 10 tickets for the same lottery draw instead of 1 ticket each for 10 separate draws.

Chances are exactly equal there again though……Sorry,but that’s simply not correct. The grouping of bets has absolutely no effect on the chances of you winning.

[pu puntzak WANTED $17 Outlaw]

No withdrawel since june,also lowroller.

[Malkychamp WANTED $485 Outlaw]

Increasing deposits is a terrible idea if you ask me that could potentially turns your your week into £180 loss rather than £60. It could also be your play style hard to know really. Do you always play the same games? Are you ever up at any stage and continue until you lose? Perhaps a new approach could be tried if it’s not working out for you. For example if you ever get to double or triple the deposit take original stake back out, if you dont get a withdrawal for another 3 months then your luck really is shit ?

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

ayma4quit wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

You’ll get more spins in the one session which gives you a better chance overall. It’s like buying 10 tickets for the same lottery draw instead of 1 ticket each for 10 separate draws.

Chances are exactly equal there again though……Sorry,but that’s simply not correct. The grouping of bets has absolutely no effect on the chances of you winning.

They’re not exactly equal. I’ll scale it down to explain why. Imagine a simple dice roll and you get to place a bet on the outcome.

You buy 3 separate £1 tickets for 3 separate rolls, all betting on the outcome being 6.

Your total probability of winning on any one of those is 43%, since it is the combined probability of 1 – (1st roll not 6) x (2nd roll not 6) x (3rd roll not 6). On each roll, you have a 5 in 6 chance of not winning, so combined probability of not winning comes to 57%.

Next you buy a single ticket for £3 for a single roll, but cover 3 numbers; 2, 4 and 6. Your chance of winning here is 50%, since you straightforwardly have 50% of the possible outcomes covered.

[Seyahkram1977 WANTED $697 Outlaw]

argyl53 wrote:

ayma4quit wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

You’ll get more spins in the one session which gives you a better chance overall. It’s like buying 10 tickets for the same lottery draw instead of 1 ticket each for 10 separate draws.

Chances are exactly equal there again though……Sorry,but that’s simply not correct. The grouping of bets has absolutely no effect on the chances of you winning.

They’re not exactly equal. I’ll scale it down to explain why. Imagine a simple dice roll and you get to place a bet on the outcome.

You buy 3 separate £1 tickets for 3 separate rolls, all betting on the outcome being 6.

Your total probability of winning on any one of those is 43%, since it is the combined probability of 1 – (1st roll not 6) x (2nd roll not 6) x (3rd roll not 6). On each roll, you have a 5 in 6 chance of not winning, so combined probability of not winning comes to 57%.

Next you buy a single ticket for £3 for a single roll, but cover 3 numbers; 2, 4 and 6. Your chance of winning here is 50%, since you straightforwardly have 50% of the possible outcomes covered.

Argyl53 wooooooow man it’s way to early for all that maths………tho …. now I’m not disagreeing with you, but you do still role one dice at a time in slots , and I think that’s what ayma4quut was saying … so the chances/ odds per 1 spin always stay the same ( odds wise ) …. but if you had more  spins the probability of a bonus landing is greater, so increasing the deposit to 60 would give you more probability but not a greater odds per spin than a 20 deposit …..wait is that right ????? I’m going to lie down ….

 

anyway we all know wizards control the dice, so you need to sacrifice a few goats for a bonus now a days

[bobbybird100 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

Hope our luck changes soon

[bobbybird100 WANTED $8 Outlaw]

No mate I used to play the same games but I changed the way I played with not winning so i dont have a clue i even thought it was the casino at one point lol even though I knew it wasnt lol done another deposit this morning as I play monday to wednesday but no luck yet itll change hopefully

[Seyahkram1977 WANTED $697 Outlaw]

bobbybird100 wrote:

No mate I used to play the same games but I changed the way I played with not winning so i dont have a clue i even thought it was the casino at one point lol even though I knew it wasnt lol done another deposit this morning as I play monday to wednesday but no luck yet itll change hopefully

Lucks a bit of dick sometimes , it comes and goes, it will return, just be careful how much you spend waiting for it….Patience mate, no bad run last forever……….. also that advice is great … if you deposit 20 and win 40- 60 what ever … take something out straightaway …. the deposit or  the win …..if it happens a couple of times your 100 up . But good luck mate

[ar argyl53 WANTED $419 Outlaw]

Yeah the lottery thing was an analogy anyway, not a like-for-like comparison with slots, which is a more complicated scenario particularly if you are jumping between different games in the session. But yes, the more spins you have in total across all your games in a single session, the more likely you are to hit something before you bust out. When you spread your money over a few smaller deposits, you increase the chance you’ll have run out before you hit a feature, even though your odds on any given spin on a particular slot remain the same.

[ayma4quit WANTED $47 Outlaw]

argyl53 wrote:

ayma4quit wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

You’ll get more spins in the one session which gives you a better chance overall. It’s like buying 10 tickets for the same lottery draw instead of 1 ticket each for 10 separate draws.

Chances are exactly equal there again though……Sorry,but that’s simply not correct. The grouping of bets has absolutely no effect on the chances of you winning.

They’re not exactly equal. I’ll scale it down to explain why. Imagine a simple dice roll and you get to place a bet on the outcome.

You buy 3 separate £1 tickets for 3 separate rolls, all betting on the outcome being 6.

Your total probability of winning on any one of those is 43%, since it is the combined probability of 1 – (1st roll not 6) x (2nd roll not 6) x (3rd roll not 6). On each roll, you have a 5 in 6 chance of not winning, so combined probability of not winning comes to 57%.

Next you buy a single ticket for £3 for a single roll, but cover 3 numbers; 2, 4 and 6. Your chance of winning here is 50%, since you straightforwardly have 50% of the possible outcomes covered.

Not too proud to admit when I’m wrong…. Can’t argue with that calculation. It messes with my head as even though its obviously correct, I can’t help but feel something isn’t quite right with the scenario when comparing it to slots or the lottery.

The dice analogy is basically saying that your best chance of winning is to lump all your money on one roll rather than spread it out over 3 rolls, which you’ve unarguably proved correct, so based on that, in theory wouldn’t your best chance of winning be (and I’m in no way saying this is the way to do it, just purely from a maths point of view) to deposit whatever you can afford, and lump it all on one spin??….. Am I correct in saying the more spins you do, the closer you get to achieving RTP so the greater chance of losing in the long run.

Your dice scenario basically says that to achieve your best chance of winning, reduce the number of spins and up the stake.

Not picking an argument here, genuinely interested how the maths can disprove the way one brain thinks.

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