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Stevie25 wrote:

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Haz40 wrote:

I don’t know much about politics but i know one thing my working week is about 5 hours longer than about 2 years ago. I travel at least 1000 miles a week and the roads and motorways are chaos. Every journey is longer than it used to be meaning less time at home with my family. Is this because the country’s population has increased? Is it because of immigration and more people entering the uk than leaving? As a self employed worker my income doesn’t even increase been at work for longer.

It’s cus of immigration and socialism. You may not believe it, but they’re pushing socialism. All western countries are, except America (currently).

They increase the population through immigration. Then they subtly force socialism, but they hide it from the people. Most people don’t see it until it’s there. Here’s a story from a friend: He went to report on what’s going on in a country. This was a couple of years ago. He decided he was gonna get a local phone and phone number, cus he was gonna spend some time there. So he went to the shop.
What happened there was he had to talk to 8 people, fill out and sign 3 forms, and it all amounted to 2 hours. To buy a phone. Which takes 5-10 minutes with 1 guy helping you.
The country he visited was venezuela. They had 8 people do the job of 1 person, with tons of extra useless bullshit pushed into it to make people have to do something for their money.

See, socialism fails for a number of reasons. But the key part of noticing socialism is when you notice how long it takes to do simple shit. That’s a clear sign you’re heading towards socialism.

Your politicians don’t work for you. They think they’re better than you. They abuse their power to get themselves into more power. And as they make more and more laws, you’re left with less and less to work with when you finally understand it’s time for an uprising, meaning you’re helpless.
Look at history. It never lies. And I AM NEVER WRONG! LISTEN TO ME FFS!

“We must rapidly begin the shift from a “thing-oriented” society to a “person-oriented” society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered.”

 

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., 1967

It’s a very well established theory. The “three triplets”, and other such monsters, are the symptoms. The disease is hierarchy… a hierarchy which enforces valuing “profit motives and property rights” over all.

 

An activist who is, say, “race reductive”, might say “I’m just going to struggle against racism, working folk (in general), woman folk (in general) ain’t my fight”. An activist who is, say, “class reductive”, might say “I’m just going to struggle against the employing class, black folk (in general), woman folk (in general) ain’t my fight”. An activist who is, say, “patriarchy reductive”, might say “I’m just going to struggle against the patriarchy structures, black folk (in general), and working folk (in general) ain’t my fight”.

 

All three of these activists are confusing “their” pet symptom for the disease. None of these strategies can ever succeed in isolation, as the disease remains, and will always re-emerge. The above situation is an obvious recipe for being the victim of a “divide and rule” counter-strategy.

 

Also, consider this: I fully realize the above “reductive” strategies are not what the “rightist” elements of the MSM mean when they desirably use the term “identity politics”. But… isn’t this really something that kinda smells the same to you?

To remain at the top of a violent hierarchy, a small minority must work at fostering divisions in the majority below them. Divide and conquer continue extracting profit. If white working folk are being paid more $$$ for the same work as black folk… this sets up a dynamic where white working folk can (mistakenly) fear their wages will go down if black working folk gain equality, and black working folk can (not always mistakenly) blame white working folk for supporting the status quo.

 

Likewise, if male working folk are being paid more $$$ for the same work as woman folk… this sets up a dynamic where male working folk can (mistakenly) fear their wages will go down if woman working folk gain equality, and woman working folk can (not always mistakenly) blame male working folk for supporting the status quo. Rinse and repeat for religions, language, regionalism, etc/etc/etc.

 

What should be noted here, and again highlighting the dysfunction and toxic nature inherent in ‘class reductivism’/etc, is this: it’s the exact same small minority at the top of the same hierarchy. Key takeaway: In a society where different kinds of “privilege” are entrenched, none can be confronted in isolation of the others.

 

So, maybe in parts of China, both “Han privilege” and “male privilege” are entrenched. If that was the case, to deal with either kinda “privilege”, the entire nexus of “Han Patriarchy” would need to be confronted. In the context of this hypothetical society, confronting “male privilege”, while refusing to even acknowledge the nexus with, or likewise confront, “Han privilege”… would be a recipe for failure.

 

Notice: once again, the hypothetical term “Han Patriarchy”: (a) does not imply that every -or- even most, peeps of Han ancestry are better off under this hierarchy, (b) does not imply that every -or- even most, males are better off under this hierarchy, (c) does not imply that all -or- any particular, peep of Han ancestry are to “blame” for this hierarchy, (d) does not imply that all -or- any particular, males are to “blame” for this hierarchy. It also doesn’t claim that (e) that members of the minority at the top of the hierarchy are all peeps of Han ancestry, or (f) deny that members of the minority at the top of the hierarchy are often going to be a near 50-50 split between males and females.

So, to wrap up & back to the context of the US… both “white privilege” and “male privilege” are entrenched. Neither can be successfully confronted in isolation of the other (or in isolation of several other issues).

So… back to the same kinda question I posed earlier…

 

Do you understand why this entire nexus needs to be identified to be successfully confronted?

 

-or-

 

Is it simply a matter that you think that certain ways this nexus is being identified are sub-optimal messaging. If so, can you suggest a better messaging strategy?

You seriously take overcomplicating things to a new level.

There is no white or male privilege in the west. Women have tons of socially constructed advantages over men, so saying it’s entrenched is just wrong.

Not that it even matters when it comes to Brexit, which is what we’re discussing here. The only relevance it has is that more and more females get to positions of power these days, while lacking the ability to do their jobs well. This results in the all out chaos we have all over the west.

Men are leaders. Women aren’t. It’s that simple.

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