Streamers lowering the.rtp

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  • #74529
    Oldmoon WANTED $27
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    Over the last three months or so slots in general seem to have become a lot tighter even though most providers rtp has stayed the same.streamers stakes have also increased quite markedly recently as well.streamers churning through thousands of spins at stakes which are totally out of reach apart from the tiny minority are skewing the rtp.in giving streamers pre loaded accounts and them playing on the popular games which most people play its like being able to legally lower the rtp for the lower stake players.i know the tro of slot defenders will come on to defend the casinos and state this is not how slots work and there is no direct correlation with the above.or perhaps it’s time for me to accept the experts opinions and agree everything is above board and to start donating a percentage to nickslots et al.

    #74530
    QuiffyQuavers WANTED $6
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    How much did you lose?

    #74548
    Biohazard WANTED $675
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    Oldmoon wrote:

    this is not how slots work and there is no direct correlation with the above.

    🙂

     

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    #74552
    thunderball6 WANTED $272
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    Biohazard wrote:

     

    Oldmoon wrote:

    this is not how slots work and there is no direct correlation with the above.

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    #74558
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    Really? I’m not a streamer and in the last two weeks I’ve hit, 300x+ about 40 times. I hit over 1000x yesterday, hit 500x yesterday.

    #74571
    Malkychamp WANTED $485
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    Rbreen91 wrote:

    Really? I’m not a streamer and in the last two weeks I’ve hit, 300x+ about 40 times. I hit over 1000x yesterday, hit 500x yesterday.

    Well obviously you must work for the casino ???

    #74574
    Green2711 WANTED $492
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    Malkychamp wrote:

    Rbreen91 wrote:

    Really? I’m not a streamer and in the last two weeks I’ve hit, 300x+ about 40 times. I hit over 1000x yesterday, hit 500x yesterday.

    Well obviously you must work for the casino ???

    He’s casino AI mate, coming here with stories and myths of 1000x wins ??

    #74618
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    I’ve just uploaded nearly 2000x win now. Finally hit jamming jars. Was building a balance at 40p… safe to say it’s built haha. 730.

    #74619
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    But yeah, I work for the casino haha. As an ex degenerate gambler.

    #74572
    ryant704 WANTED $3
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    I don’t gamble, not at least anymore but with all the this supposed fake money being around. The questions that I’ve asked, does the machine still thinks it is getting cash even though the provider (BTG, Netent, Elk, etc) won’t know this is fake money so in turn if the person with fake money get’s a big cash out. This in turn destroys the RTP for people playing with real cash? I don’t know if this is how it would work but I’m 90% sure it would work this way. Obviously if they get 10k fake money and lose it, this is then 10k better of for the RTP for the real players.

    I think one of the best ways to stop fake money is to contact the providers as it makes their slots look bad in the end. Then the providers could force the casinos out from using fake money. Then again are providers paid a fix contract or do they get a % based on the money the casino returns from their site?

    I do believe there are bigger concerns with fake money than just inticing people to sign-up and start gambling as it will effect everyone playing that shit.

    #74640
    Liberty WANTED $132
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    ryant704 wrote:

    I don’t gamble, not at least anymore but with all the this supposed fake money being around. The questions that I’ve asked, does the machine still thinks it is getting cash even though the provider (BTG, Netent, Elk, etc) won’t know this is fake money so in turn if the person with fake money get’s a big cash out. This in turn destroys the RTP for people playing with real cash? I don’t know if this is how it would work but I’m 90% sure it would work this way. Obviously if they get 10k fake money and lose it, this is then 10k better of for the RTP for the real players.

    I think one of the best ways to stop fake money is to contact the providers as it makes their slots look bad in the end. Then the providers could force the casinos out from using fake money. Then again are providers paid a fix contract or do they get a % based on the money the casino returns from their site?

    I do believe there are bigger concerns with fake money than just inticing people to sign-up and start gambling as it will effect everyone playing that shit.

    This isn’t how a online slot works.

    Each spin is a unique event completely unrelated to any other spin.

    The simplest way to understand it is imagine you’re playing a slot with an RTP of 95%. You hit spin, the casino asks the slot provider for the result of your spin. In the background a huge roulette wheel spins with 100 numbers on it. 95 of them give you your money bank and 5 of them take it.

    Now the reality is there are millions of numbers on the wheel and some are 100x plus wins, some are bonuses, some are smaller wins and plenty of them are losses (oh and it’s not a roulette wheel) but the point is that if you added up all the results and divided them by the number of possible results you’d end up with 95% of your stake.

    Every time you hit spin you get one of these results randomly and it doesn’t take into account your stake, the number of spins you’ve had, who else is playing it, who else had won or lost. It’s just a completely random event, much like a roulette spin.

    I hope this helps.

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    #74642
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
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    It baffles me how many people think the RTP gets lower for you because people are winning.

    #74644
    Biohazard WANTED $675
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    Rbreen91 wrote:

    It baffles me how many people think the RTP gets lower for you because people are winning.

    The shocking thing is, plenty of croupiers and casino workers that I speak to also think this. Common misconception!

    I think it stems from history, and how pub slots work.

    #74647
    Kingpab WANTED $149
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    Liberty wrote:

    ryant704 wrote:

    I don’t gamble, not at least anymore but with all the this supposed fake money being around. The questions that I’ve asked, does the machine still thinks it is getting cash even though the provider (BTG, Netent, Elk, etc) won’t know this is fake money so in turn if the person with fake money get’s a big cash out. This in turn destroys the RTP for people playing with real cash? I don’t know if this is how it would work but I’m 90% sure it would work this way. Obviously if they get 10k fake money and lose it, this is then 10k better of for the RTP for the real players.

    I think one of the best ways to stop fake money is to contact the providers as it makes their slots look bad in the end. Then the providers could force the casinos out from using fake money. Then again are providers paid a fix contract or do they get a % based on the money the casino returns from their site?

    I do believe there are bigger concerns with fake money than just inticing people to sign-up and start gambling as it will effect everyone playing that shit.

    This isn’t how a online slot works.

    Each spin is a unique event completely unrelated to any other spin.

    The simplest way to understand it is imagine you’re playing a slot with an RTP of 95%. You hit spin, the casino asks the slot provider for the result of your spin. In the background a huge roulette wheel spins with 100 numbers on it. 95 of them give you your money bank and 5 of them take it.

    Now the reality is there are millions of numbers on the wheel and some are 100x plus wins, some are bonuses, some are smaller wins and plenty of them are losses (oh and it’s not a roulette wheel) but the point is that if you added up all the results and divided them by the number of possible results you’d end up with 95% of your stake.

    Every time you hit spin you get one of these results randomly and it doesn’t take into account your stake, the number of spins you’ve had, who else is playing it, who else had won or lost. It’s just a completely random event, much like a roulette spin.

    I hope this helps.

    It definitely dose take into account the stake size. No one is ever hitting a 1000x on the silly stakes. It’s just never going to happen.

    On the big win page some wins are 8000x no one is letting that hit on stakes bigger then 5quid possible less

    #74648
    Biohazard WANTED $675
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    Kingpab wrote:

    It definitely dose take into account the stake size. No one is ever hitting a 1000x on the silly stakes. It’s just never going to happen.

    On the big win page some wins are 8000x no one is letting that hit on stakes bigger then 5quid possible less

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