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22nd January 2019 at 9:38 am #41427
This is why I don’t play table games or card games online or in the casino
Casinos are no longer just accepting an edge in their favor they are straight up cheating
Those cards were unbelievable tbh, to hit 21 from those positions not once but twice just stinks to high heaven. casinos are like kids, alright when they are winning but give them a few losses and they blubbering about it, and then straight up cheating whilst throwing a temper tantrum.
Look at Reel King, someone is winning a few quid so lets take the gamble ladder off so he can’t beat it. Surely there has to be some sort of way of beating them? so as to abide to natures law? they have to give you a chance of winning otherwise its bad karma? yet so far all we seem to see here is casinos throwing strops, refusing to pay out a lot, removing gamble ladders, and straight up cheating on card games ala Rolla.
22nd January 2019 at 9:42 am #41428In a casino once had 20 on blackjack. Dealers cards 7 of hearts, 7 of hearts, obviously hits and guess what card was next 7 of hearts. Unbelievable
22nd January 2019 at 10:06 am #41433Can someone please explain to me what the fuck “house edge” on blackjack means.
Ive never heard such cobswallop!
Surely the player has the edge. The player can stick or twist on 17 but the dealer usually cannot! Plus if the dealer is up against a full table then wheres the edge?
See members using this term “house bloody edge” all the time to defend casinos. With nothing more to add but that.
Its pish in my opinion.
If you could choose would you play 1st or 2nd?
22nd January 2019 at 10:11 am #41434Can someone please explain to me what the fuck “house edge” on blackjack means.
Ive never heard such cobswallop!
Surely the player has the edge. The player can stick or twist on 17 but the dealer usually cannot! Plus if the dealer is up against a full table then wheres the edge?
See members using this term “house bloody edge” all the time to defend casinos. With nothing more to add but that.
Its pish in my opinion.
Not defending the casinos mate – I hate them. But the house edge is there. The biggest is that they have to hit on any numbers below 17. Most people stand on say a 14, but the house does not.
122nd January 2019 at 10:18 am #41436Can someone please explain to me what the fuck “house edge” on blackjack means.
Ive never heard such cobswallop!
Surely the player has the edge. The player can stick or twist on 17 but the dealer usually cannot! Plus if the dealer is up against a full table then wheres the edge?
See members using this term “house bloody edge” all the time to defend casinos. With nothing more to add but that.
Its pish in my opinion.
Not defending the casinos mate – I hate them. But the house edge is there. The biggest is that they have to hit on any numbers below 17. Most people stand on say a 14, but the house does not.
Is it not blackjack that has the highest rtp at 98% which is higher than nearly all slots and roulette? Not sure about games like craps or baccarat as never played em.
22nd January 2019 at 10:52 am #41444It does have a very high rtp but it is dependant on playing a near perfect strategy. The rtp swings massively, especially if you are on a table with a couple of idiots who don’t play the right way. That’s whenever I play I go for a table on my own or with someone I know.
22nd January 2019 at 10:58 am #41447It does have a very high rtp but it is dependant on playing a near perfect strategy. The rtp swings massively, especially if you are on a table with a couple of idiots who don’t play the right way. That’s whenever I play I go for a table on my own or with someone I know.
Why thank you for explaining Mr. W.
22nd January 2019 at 11:07 am #41449Can someone please explain to me what the fuck “house edge” on blackjack means.
Ive never heard such cobswallop!
Surely the player has the edge. The player can stick or twist on 17 but the dealer usually cannot! Plus if the dealer is up against a full table then wheres the edge?
See members using this term “house bloody edge” all the time to defend casinos. With nothing more to add but that.
Its pish in my opinion.
It’s very simple to understand house edge. The casino offers you pays which are slightly lower than the probability of you winning. In a single deck blackjack hand, for example, if you are dealt an ace as your first card your odds of hitting blackjack on the second card are around 32% but you win is only 3:2, so you’re being paid as if it had a 40% chance of happening. In roulette, you get 35:1, as if winning has a 1 in 36 chance of happening when actually it’s a 1 in 37 chance. So there is a small built in advantage to the casino.
It’s just basics.
22nd January 2019 at 11:27 am #41455Exactly plus the fact you have to act first which is a massive advantage to the house as you have to hit on a wide variety of hands if your playing optimal blackjack.
I haven’t seen the stream but it happens that the dealer hits miracle 21’s on live blackjack it’s just bad luck. I don’t think it’s rigged but we will never know will we!
I will say though my biggest ever online score came from working my way up on computer blackjack on Stars from a $20 deposit and I got that by NOT following basic strategy. I wouldn’t say I’ve got a system but I did find that certain hands would play out the same very often so I deviated for example going on a run of 2 winning hands and then getting dealt 11 vs 5 I would double down in live play but against the computer I elected to hit because I knew that they was going to deal me an Ace or low card. Same with any A2-5hand vs 5 or 6 I’ll occasionally double down but not in computer Blackjack because I know I’ll be dealt a 10 and they would be dealt a 5 followed by a high card. Some other strange ones would be getting dealt a 9 vs 10 and standing because again it just happened so often that a low card would come and the dealer would flip over 15/16 and get there with there with a 5 or 6, more so than I was used to when playing live. I ended up working it up to $3000 obviously getting very lucky and being extremely lucky on deviating from basic strategy. I mean I don’t know if computer BJ is rigged but the dealer getting there or having more made hands seem to occur a lot more often or at least to me… I do tend to shout “algorithms!” everytime the dealer pulls a miracle 21 out of his arse 4-5 times on the bounce. I should mention the computer Blackjack I was playing doesn’t deal both dealer cards face down it deals one then once you stand they get the next card from the top of the deck so obviously I was judging whether or not to hit based on what I thought might be coming next, rather strange as it only seems to be computer blackjack that does this.
22nd January 2019 at 11:31 am #41456Yeah I watched last night, real disappointing end to what was becoming an epic stream, blew a balance then won it all back and some. The tilt off sicbo was horrible, ‘I’ll bet small’ a minute later and a grand down goes full tilt. Thing is he plays in such a way he can win massive off a small deposit fast but lose a big balance just as fast. Last night was hard viewing though.
One thing I will say is the chat in his streams is getting toxic. People wanting him to lose or urging big stakes so he does. Didn’t sit well with me at all and has started putting me off, definitely not such a fun view anymore. I think that’s why I’ve leaned more towards bandits way, videos with no dickhead comments but a busy forum which for the most part is constructive and friendly, you’ll always get the odd troll and chancer.
22nd January 2019 at 11:42 am #41459Yeah I watched last night, real disappointing end to what was becoming an epic stream, blew a balance then won it all back and some. The tilt off sicbo was horrible, ‘I’ll bet small’ a minute later and a grand down goes full tilt. Thing is he plays in such a way he can win massive off a small deposit fast but lose a big balance just as fast. Last night was hard viewing though.
One thing I will say is the chat in his streams is getting toxic. People wanting him to lose or urging big stakes so he does. Didn’t sit well with me at all and has started putting me off, definitely not such a fun view anymore. I think that’s why I’ve leaned more towards bandits way, videos with no dickhead comments but a busy forum which for the most part is constructive and friendly, you’ll always get the odd troll and chancer.
Paul and Bandit are the only streamers/YT uploaders I watch and I think Paul’s a great guy but he is a compulsive gambler and whether people are willing him to or not he would still of played it the same way regardless. If anything he tends to be more sensible on stream then when he is off stream recording because he doesn’t want to disappoint people with an incredibly short session but even with that he does go busto rather fast some nights trying to get an acceptable balance to play slots. Thats just the way he gambles, he’s admitted himself that if his missus didn’t handle his finances then he would have gone bust long ago. The ones urging him to lose are the ones getting pissed off that he blows off a massive balance on huge bets but like I said that’s how he gambles it’s his money not there’s, he’s not interested in a small score he wants to push it and often it doesn’t work out but when it does he hits massive doesn’t he.
22nd January 2019 at 11:43 am #41460I have the same with words from a different side. Where I work people like to use long and over the top words to try and appear more intellectual than they actually are.
For example in a meeting yesterday I was asked
“can you create a holistic statistical gap analysis to show areas of movement for peripatetic employees to monitor sites where we are achieving high levels of customer interaction and ones that are not being met”.
I replied with “you want a map to show what sites we visit and what we dont”. Keep it simple……..
Better not come away with any of that “Jibber Jabber” when you come up here mate.
22nd January 2019 at 11:50 am #41461Now I think about it, house edge is probably easier to understand on a much smaller scale example.
Let’s say I offer you the chance to bet £1 on the outcome of a coin toss (random event I can’t control, has two equally likely outcomes). If it’s heads you get £2, if it’s tails you lose and I keep your £1.
That scenario is fair for you – it’s a double or nothing bet on a 50/50 chance. But for me, as the “casino” in that scenario, I’m gambling just as much as you are. I have as much chance of losing £1 as I do of making £1. This means there is no “house edge”.
Now imagine exactly the same scenario, except if you win instead of getting £2, you get £1.80. That 20p difference is my house edge. Yes I will still lose on average half the bets you place with me, but I don’t lose as much as you do. Over thousands of coin tosses, I can expect to make an overall average of 10p profit from each one (half of 20p because I will lose half the bets).
1000 bets = £1000 revenue. 500 wins for you = (1.8 x 500) = £900 paid out = £100 profit for me = 10% house edge.
122nd January 2019 at 12:06 pm #41462hey guts just to clear up when i say rigged i just mean very haest bj can be a bastard and 20 vs 4 for dearler to hit 21 and drop paul card was just mega harsh but hey ho thats online casinos saying that i turned my free fiver from ladbrooks yesterday (1x wager) in to a nice 70 notes
22nd January 2019 at 12:21 pm #41464Rigged decks, Magnets built into roulette wheels, Affiliation conspiracies… Only one thing for it.
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pauls steam tonight what a harsh end !!!
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Rigged decks, Magnets built into roulette wheels, Affiliation conspiracies… Only one thing for it.
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