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[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Thanks for Re opening it @Seedy. But after a think I’ve decided to lay down my battered and bruised sword. 😉

This was never going anywhere with these people. It was getting too heated and way too stupid. I’m done with trying to convince people that it may be fraudulent or rigged. If my evidence or links provided nobody believing me then fuck it WHY BOTHER 😉

Thanks again.

Just Basics 😉

 

[Mickeyvondickey WANTED $181 Outlaw]

Hi @Just Basics.

Sorry if i said any dodgy comments throughout the thread. You are obviously very passionate in what you believe and i can appreciate that mate. You made some very good points.
Good luck in the future pal and our paths may cross again in this forum! All the best. ?

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

All the best mate 😉

[li ligarr WANTED $82 Outlaw]

Just Basics wrote:

@eejit101

Ok then mate, apologies if my grammar was a bit off   (btw that’s what most trolls who want an argument say)

I’l try to type more impressively like yourself this time.

All i said is you have proven nothing. You just listed Bull shit reasons why they don’t rig it.

Ok here i go….Do the  “air quotes” company you work for spend every single day at the casino site offices to check and audit them?

Have you ever seen a million/billion dollar company that aren’t corrupt or fraudulent? because i haven’t!

You didn’t give a come back for my RNG Statement………why is that?

Your a person hiding behind secrecy and riddles mate. Tell us the company you work for, tell us exactly how u know why the casino’s aren’t rigged, tell us your employed by auditors that don’t have a vested interest in keeping hush.

Tell u how you can say all this and still keep a straight face lol.

I stand by my statement…….It is rigged for some people to win, and rigged for most people who don’t. Yes it would be hard to do this software wise, but all each company has to do, is employ Secret Tech Wizards around the clock to keep it rigged and make it majorly profitable for the owners.

I’m allowed my own opinion aren’t i?

I will give you one example of why i think all Online Casino’s are Fraudulent Cancerous Corrupt Machines, and then i will keep quiet.

Its a long one but here i go……..

POKERSTARS……the largest online gambling company in the world established Sep 11 2001 (strange date to get started but hey ho)

They are worth Over 1.8 billion (2017)

Let me firstly say, to begin with they were a completely legitimate company.

This Company has NEVER EVER been audited or investigated by any outside company. They have only been audited by company’s that the Stars Group actually own themselves. IKR this is hard to believe but ACTUALLY 100% A FACT

Literally Type “Pokerstars is” into any search engine on the web and it will say…rigged, scum. fraudulent, corrupt etc etc all top results.

100% FACT

Look on Youtube and type “Pokerstars rigged” and you will literally get over 500 thousand results. 100% FACT

All pokerstars reviews online……Almost everybody hates them. yet they have over 250 thousand players online each day. 100% FACT

3 Other major poker sites have been shut down in the past by the FBI because of fraudulent money problems and cheating players who can see their opponents cards, action cards and bots who win everything. 100% FACT

Not a few hundred but literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of people saying Pokerstars is a fraudulent rigged site. why would they say this?

here is a video that i would like you to watch and then give your opinion if its not too much trouble. Its only 9 minutes long. And it goes into more depth on why they can rig and they do rig.

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Two things, firstly you have listed youtube and Google auto fill as your sources.. I just typed “is the earth” here are the options Is the earth “a star” Is the earth “slowing down” Is the earth “bigger than the sun” By your logic these must all be true.. Youtube is full of flat earth Conspiracy nonsense to name just one thing that is on there that’s completely ridiculous. Pokerstars makes millions and millions and millions every year risk free from rake. People experience a handful of bad beats and cry “it’s a scam”. The second thing is that it’s you’re not your. You’re = you are Your doesn’t. That’s your car, wow you’re so lucky to have such a nice car. Not trying to be a donkey, just trying to share knowledge. Ultimately if you “believe” that casinos do these things then it’s pointless anyone engaging in a debate with you about it, much like it’s pointless debating a flat earther. Which might explain why you haven’t had a reply Or perhaps they are just busy working.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

@ligarr

This thread was finished. But sure i will reply to your statement about Pokerstars. I just cant leave it with you saying they are not fraudulent.

You say my logic is flawed and completely wrong yeah?

Ok then, so if 80% of people are saying its rigged and 20% are saying its not. Does than say to you that its probably not, or its is?

If you go to a movie review site do you then proceed to find a movie to watch that has 1 star or 5 stars? 😉 Im guessing you watch the movie with 5!

I REALLY CANT UNDERSTAND your way of thinking! because “SO” much more people are say something dodgy is going on at Pokerstars

You say Pokerstars makes a lot of money each year from rake so why do they need to rig it?

Answer –  If you have a rigged RNG to create action flops etc, then the rake is bigger.

And you ask why do they rig it?

Answer – because they are greedy.

Don’t try to say its not rigged there because it most certainly is.

I’m not crying because i lose all the time, I’m just mad about the WAYS i lose. You know the 1000-1 ways!

I  have been a poker player for 15 years, and i know how the game works inside and out. And the shit that happens there simply DOES NOT and CAN NOT happen all the time like it does.

NO i cannot prove it. But i bet if i had 10-20 million spare and unlimited time to prove it, I BET MY OWN LIFE that i could,

The words random, variance and maths do dot exist there. Its all  BIG SCAM. And i pray each night for the heads of that sick cancerous company to come to justice. But unfortunately they won’t any time soon. BUT THEY WILL.

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

@ligarr

And you completely dodged all my other points about Pokertstars and went on to blab about my grammar Your/You’re etc

and proceeded to say stuff about bloody FLAT EARTHERS?

YOU’RE obviously one of those forum people that dodge everything and go on to write garbage about nothingness!

Answer these questions –

1- WHY HAVE POKERSTARS NEVER EVER BEEN AUDITED OR INVESTIGATED BY OUTSIDE COMPANY’S?

2-WHY DO YOU THINK POKERTARS WAS ESTABLISHED ON SEP 11 2001? (i’d love to hear YOU’RE explanation for that one)

3- WHY DO YOU THINK 80-90% OF PEOPLE THINK AND SAY POKERSTARS IS RIGGED?

4- WHY HAVE POKERSTARS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE WAY TOURNAMENTS RUN? eg unlimited rebuy’s for every tournament, Satelites only having 1 seat instead of 2 for the winners at 6-9 handed, Payout structures, Late registration from 1 hr to 3 fkin hrs etc etc

5- WHY IF YOU ARE ALL IN, IN A BOUNTY MTT AND YOUR COVERED IN CHIPS ARE YOU 99% LIKELY TO GET FELTED NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR HAND IS?

6- WHY ARE POKERSTARS HEADQUATERS BASED ON THE ISLE OF MAN?

7- CAN THE SOFTWARE RNG TRULY BE RANDOM?

MORE Rebuys, More Rake, More people getting mad and making bad decisions, More Deposits, MORE MORE MORE!

 

 

[Na Nathanio WANTED $21 Outlaw]

@ligarr I have literally JUST made use of the generous 200% bonus on Pokerstars….. £132 + 200% = $500 after conversion….. and not only is it really VERY content rich in terms of amount of provider and games available, the support team are amongst the best I’ve ever dealt with and the wagering as SO MUCH MORE SIMPLIFIED, a child could understand it. I was lucky enough to have an amazing session, on the big screen on small stakes, hit some great bonuses and ended up cashing out $2000 which came to just short of $1600 after conversion.

my verification docs were handled in 48 hours and the cash out followed the day after.

If you genuinely think that a casino that has been established for as long as pokerstars has been is “rigged” then YES, you are up there with the Flat Earthers and the Hoax moon landings conspiracy theorist MORONS!

Get a GRIP, get over the fact that you feel complete compulsion to spend & borrow every last penny you can to feed your addiction. Get over the fact that frankly you’re a sorry addict that cannot come to terms with the fact that you’re to blame and GET OVER IT!

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

@Nathanio

Sorry mate, but this is a very pathetic and sad attempt at getting my back up!

Why did you even bother writing it, I mean its absolutely laughable. Do you really think because you have withdrawn a win from Pokerstars that it means they aren’t fraudulent, corrupt rigged liars?

Fuck me I’ve withdrawn thousands from Pokerstars over the years you silly sausage.

Bloody hell you are silly aren’t you, I mean what the hell are you even in this thread? C’MON my friend i think its you that needs to GET A GRIP.

Like i keep on and on and on and on asking. Please just answer the questions that I’m asking politely about Pokerstars. (SEEN ABOVE, just take a look) 😉

Spanku

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[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Sorry forgot to add @Nathanio is obviously talking Bollocks.

Writing his reply like a fucking ADVERTISEMENT lmao

I’ve literally got tears in my eyes from Laughter.

Just ANSWER the Bloody questions I’ve asked r kid, and stop spouting garbage.

OH and Hey Nathanio….

Find me 10 JUST 10 regular people, NOT SPONSORED FAKES who share your love for Pokerstars and i will bow down to your LEGEND, and never bad mouth them again. I PROMISE!

Chow4Now sweetheart

[li ligarr WANTED $82 Outlaw]

This was my friends reply to you,not mine,for some reason he could not post so asked me too,he also wrote it alot better than my copy/pste showed lol.

But as for pokerstars and others being rigged etc,i do disagree,i actually make a living now from casinos…so long may it continue them doing whatever it is they are:).

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

I could answer your questions, Just Basics. And I (or anyone else that knows anything about this industry) could give you detailed, coherent responses filled with clear cut evidence on how Pokerstars, or other companies, aren’t as corrupt as you make them out to be. But it wouldn’t matter. You are so fixated on them being the reason why you’re losing, you’re refusing to look at reason, and perhaps it is you that is the problem.

Get an open mind, come back with ACTUAL EVIDENCE and not ambiguous statements with zero supporting, reputable sources, and perhaps we can work this out. Until then, why should any of us bother wasting our time with you?

[Mickeyvondickey WANTED $181 Outlaw]

This is my last post in this thread but it’s a wall of text so just skip it if you don’t fancy a read.

If i claim to own a pet dog i’m sure most of you would believe me. I mean, it’s not uncommon, people have pets and alot of them are dogs.

If i claim however to have a big fuck off fire breathing pet dragon in my garden shed most people would say “Bollocks mate, pull the other one!”
And rightly so.

If i went on and on about my dragon, in the end people would say “RIGHT SUNSHINE, PROVE IT!”

And of course, i couldn’t.

The claim in most of this thread is that MOST online casinos are rigged.
Not 4 or 5 or 50, but MOST.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not hunches or gut feelings.

Another example would be:

If a school of a 1000 kids had an exam and 4 or 5 kids cheated, should we believe that most of the kids cheated aswell???

That would seem unjust to the rest of them right?

If in 1 year, 3 years or 5 years time there is a breaking news scandal where it was found that most online casinos were using virtually undetectable software to rig games i would say “WELL FUCK ME, @Just Basics WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. HE WAS SPOT ON ALL ALONG!”.

Until that time though, it seems unfair to condemn a whole industry based on afew bad egg casinos who have fallen foul of the rules and got greedy.

Laters all and have a quality weekend!

[Kingpab WANTED $149 Outlaw]

What a great thread this has been, loved the backwards forwards of it all.,

Personally I tend to think that most big companies are a bit corrupt because of greed, I have no proof I’m not a flat earth guy or any of that bollocks.

But sometimes the stuff u witness online is just to unbelievable to not be rigged.

But hey ho I can’t prove it, but keep the thread going because I like everyone getting annoyed by not liking each others thoughts ? ? ?

[Anonymous WANTED $483 Inactive]

Ok Guys i give in, but i will write a bit more first haha 🙂

Listen fellas, I get that you think I’m a Retarded conspiracy theorist who thinks the world is against him. But truly i am not. I’ve just been trying to put across my ideas and thoughts about the online gambling world. Yes i am very passionate about believing a lot of it is fraudulent and corrupt. But mostly I’m pissed that they are hell bent on fucking us out of money any way they can. I mean i bet most people who are reading this have a had an unbelievably hard time on withdrawing a big win on occasion. And I’m guessing a few have even not been paid out.  And i bet the bonus deposits etc have bit them in the arse a few times too. etc….

Sure all this is in the small print about bonuses, BUT SHOULD IT BE?

I mean why aren’t these Casinos Truly Transparent? Why aren’t Pokerstars Truly Transparent?

Why are they trying to fucking us over time after time?

One example – I deposited at Casumo for 6 months and lost for ages lol without giving my age verification. But i swear to god as soon as i had over 2.5k to withdraw they fucking pounced on me for proof of age! Surely this is a Shady thing to do, and i bet its happened to thousands. I got the money but, I’m betting i could have gone a year depositing with no withdrawals and no age verification.

Maybe this is a crap example but its just one example of many shady underhand things ALL casinos do to fuck us over.

Listen I’m not out to fuck anyone off or be a wanker to them. I’m just here to enlighten.

Maybe i go off a bit and call names, but that’s just because i believe in my statements. I’m sorry for being rude and hope to carry on in this forum for a while. I Love “Bandit” and i think he’s one of the good guys. In no way do i think he is a part of the fraud.

I’m also pretty fucked off that Not a single reply has gone into answering any of my points on why i think Pokertstars is Cancerous. The points are listed 1-7 above, and id love for at least 1 fucking person to answer me ffs 🙂 I mean I’ve asked politely several times.

Anyway good luck to all, and thanks for keeping me entertained for a few days whilst i have the fkin flu 😉

[Mickeyvondickey WANTED $181 Outlaw]

I know fook all about poker and pokerstars so i wont even go there. Good luck with that flu though pal. I know it can be a bitch to shift at times. ??

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