Can we agree?

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 17 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #58137
    Eightblack WANTED $446
    Outlaw

    Addiction exists, Everything is OK in moderation and its down to the individual to change, no one else.

    Sometimes, for reasons unknown to myself I will gamble way more than I should, and don’t win. The casino existing makes this possible, but is it their fault? No, it’s mine.

    every day I buy a minimum of a four pack from my local shop.. The Indian guy sells them to me everyday sometimes 8 sometimes 16, is it his fault that I have a drinking problem? No, I’m an adult and am making my own bad decisions.

    On the flip side there are people who enjoy a drink every now and again and an affordable flutter on the slots and have no negative consequences, does my bad behavior mean they shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy it responsibley? Because it’s availability might fuck people like me up? No. We all need to take responsibility for our actions regardless how painful it is to admit that you and no-one else spent a month’s wages in 20mins or drank so much you blacked out and end up in court. Its still your fault. Its hard to accept your own fuck ups and its so much easier to blame others but we all have them, we all need to take ownership of them. At that point and only that point can you begin to rebuild.

    For context I’m an ex drug addict, borderline alcoholic and a compulsive gambler, I understand the beast and I battle it as best I can.

    3
    1
    #58138
    Biohazard WANTED $675
    Outlaw

    Totally agree. Accountability, guys.

    It’s obviously important in society that we have the right support systems in place – not everyone is as strong-willed as others. But taking ownership for your actions is certainly step one. We all have the ability to choose our next move.

    1
    1
    #58146
    Rbreen91 WANTED $493
    Outlaw

    Nah that’s bullshit, people should never be accountable for their own actions…

     

    I enjoy all my vices massively but, I make work every day, self employed, I’ve lost obscene amounts of cash, and I don’t blame anybody but myself. There are too many soft cunts around who think the world owe them something.

    1
    1
    #58167
    Dune2000 WANTED $205
    Blocked

    Eightblack wrote:

    Addiction exists, Everything is OK in moderation and its down to the individual to change, no one else.

    Sometimes, for reasons unknown to myself I will gamble way more than I should, and don’t win. The casino existing makes this possible, but is it their fault? No, it’s mine.

    every day I buy a minimum of a four pack from my local shop.. The Indian guy sells them to me everyday sometimes 8 sometimes 16, is it his fault that I have a drinking problem? No, I’m an adult and am making my own bad decisions.

    On the flip side there are people who enjoy a drink every now and again and an affordable flutter on the slots and have no negative consequences, does my bad behavior mean they shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy it responsibley? Because it’s availability might fuck people like me up? No. We all need to take responsibility for our actions regardless how painful it is to admit that you and no-one else spent a month’s wages in 20mins or drank so much you blacked out and end up in court. Its still your fault. Its hard to accept your own fuck ups and its so much easier to blame others but we all have them, we all need to take ownership of them. At that point and only that point can you begin to rebuild.

    For context I’m an ex drug addict, borderline alcoholic and a compulsive gambler, I understand the beast and I battle it as best I can.

    Sort of like owning a Ferrari – is it the sellers fault you are paying a huge fine, or your own fault for doing 150 mph down the motorway 🙂

    reminds me of the guy who tried to sue McDonalds as he said that eating there 3 times a day had made him obese and affected his health and they should have taken more care of him.

    Why should I be denied a Big Mac just because some greedy fat bastard can’t control his own urges and wants to blame other people 🙂

    1
    1
    #58169
    Mickeyvondickey WANTED $181
    Outlaw

    It seems like a snowflake generation where nobody takes accountability or responsibility for the cards they were dealt in life. Deal with it. Better yourself. The world doesn’t owe you anything.

    You owe it to yourself to be the best you can.

    1
    1
    #58170
    Malkychamp WANTED $485
    Outlaw

    Mickeyvondickey wrote:

    It seems like a snowflake generation where nobody takes accountability or responsibility for the cards they were dealt in life. Deal with it. Better yourself. The world doesn’t owe you anything.

    You owe it to yourself to be the best you can.

    Wise words ?

    1
    1
    #58171
    Haz40 WANTED $1,166
    Outlaw

    It’s like the people who say alcoholics and gambling addicts don’t have an addiction it’s an illness. In other words that implies to me not their fault. Gambling in my family is hereditary so can’t be my fault right. I was born a gambler with this illness. Load of bollox i say. Yes i may have an addictive personality but i made these choices no one forced me. The adverts,  fobts, flashing lights, the videos. I know everything I’ve done over the years is my fault and i have to take responsibility for that and so should others end of.

    1
    1
    #58174
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    Also taking resposibility is a big part of getting shut of an addiction. And i take responsibility for mine. But i don’t really wanna get rid of it lol.

    I like gambling.

    But i dont FULLY take resposibility cos the amount of fucking advertising now is just ridiculous. I can go weeks/months without a flutter. Then i hear or see a twatting advert and it gets the juices flowing. Cant turn the radio,tv or my phone on without some advert promoting gambling.

    Will power is a big part also, but some are stronger than others.

    So yeah its my fault

    I bet if advertising was illegal like it is for fags. I would in no way gamble as much.

    Im kinda take 70% of the blame for my addiction. ?

     

    1
    #58175
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    We are all  “consumers” end of story.

    The powers that be abuse us by forcing tech, food, choices, adverts, news down out thoats every second of every fucking day.

    Most of what we consume is pure evil shit, and its put in place by them to cause hysteria, panic, jealousy, drama. But most of all to control.

    Gambling is a part of this control.

    Yeah i have a choice. But they make it hard to pick the right one.

     

     

    1
    1
    #58179
    Stevie25 WANTED $254
    Outlaw

    Haz40 wrote:

    It’s like the people who say alcoholics and gambling addicts don’t have an addiction it’s an illness. In other words that implies to me not their fault. Gambling in my family is hereditary so can’t be my fault right. I was born a gambler with this illness. Load of bollox i say. Yes i may have an addictive personality but i made these choices no one forced me. The adverts,  fobts, flashing lights, the videos. I know everything I’ve done over the years is my fault and i have to take responsibility for that and so should others end of.

    Hi Eightblack… I was writing a long post but to be honest I can’t be arsed this morning.. Yes your correct ? Brother.

    There’s plenty of help & Support groups out there for addicts, it’s lucky we have that in the UK. ? And most off the EU. ?

    Hi Haz…This old argument lol mate.

    Dont take offence to how people define their addiction, it’s there choice. Some will say its a illness because they are in treatment and it’s a better way for them to define it. And as long as they have an understanding that it’s treatable they have a good chance to kick it.

    On the other hand Some will use the “Illness” to commit scumbaggery… I tend to see the person & If their looking for actual help to recover then I’ll help, if their upto B.S. me then they receive B.S. in return.

    Were all different & that’s the beauty of life.

    Ive learned not to expect anything in life, then I don’t get disappointed/Let down as much, and that helps me greatly.

    So I see the Illness argument as just something that can upset me, so I don’t tend to go there often. I see you as a online friend and am only saying don’t let it upset you brother because when us addicts get upset we can do damage to ourself’s.

    Enjoy your day Peeps & be lucky ????

     

    1
    1
    #58180
    Stevie25 WANTED $254
    Outlaw

    Just Basics wrote:

    We are all  “consumers” end of story.

    The powers that be abuse us by forcing tech, food, choices, adverts, news down out thoats every second of every fucking day.

    Most of what we consume is pure evil shit, and its put in place by them to cause hysteria, panic, jealousy, drama. But most of all to control.

    Gambling is a part of this control.

    Yeah i have a choice. But they make it hard to pick the right one.

     

     

    When I’m having those days JB I try to remember the saying…. To grant me the Common sense to accept the things I cannot change, The Courage to change the things I can & the wisdom to know the difference. ?

    Unfortunately Sometimes the wisdom goes down the drain ?

    #58181
    Haz40 WANTED $1,166
    Outlaw

    Stevie25 wrote:

    Haz40 wrote:

    It’s like the people who say alcoholics and gambling addicts don’t have an addiction it’s an illness. In other words that implies to me not their fault. Gambling in my family is hereditary so can’t be my fault right. I was born a gambler with this illness. Load of bollox i say. Yes i may have an addictive personality but i made these choices no one forced me. The adverts,  fobts, flashing lights, the videos. I know everything I’ve done over the years is my fault and i have to take responsibility for that and so should others end of.

    Hi Eightblack… I was writing a long post but to be honest I can’t be arsed this morning.. Yes your correct ? Brother.

    There’s plenty of help & Support groups out there for addicts, it’s lucky we have that in the UK. ? And most off the EU. ?

    Hi Haz…This old argument lol mate.

    Dont take offence to how people define their addiction, it’s there choice. Some will say its a illness because they are in treatment and it’s a better way for them to define it. And as long as they have an understanding that it’s treatable they have a good chance to kick it.

    On the other hand Some will use the “Illness” to commit scumbaggery… I tend to see the person & If their looking for actual help to recover then I’ll help, if their upto B.S. me then they receive B.S. in return.

    Were all different & that’s the beauty of life.

    Ive learned not to expect anything in life, then I don’t get disappointed/Let down as much, and that helps me greatly.

    So I see the Illness argument as just something that can upset me, so I don’t tend to go there often. I see you as a online friend and am only saying don’t let it upset you brother because when us addicts get upset we can do damage to ourself’s.

    Enjoy your day Peeps & be lucky ????

     

    If that’s a short post I’d hate to read one of your long ones lol. I’m at work at 10.30 wouldn’t have time to read it.??.  I will try and enjoy my day and you enjoy yours. Have a good one mate.

    1
    1
    #58182
    Anonymous WANTED $483
    Inactive

    Stevie25 wrote:

    Just Basics wrote:

    We are all  “consumers” end of story.

    The powers that be abuse us by forcing tech, food, choices, adverts, news down out thoats every second of every fucking day.

    Most of what we consume is pure evil shit, and its put in place by them to cause hysteria, panic, jealousy, drama. But most of all to control.

    Gambling is a part of this control.

    Yeah i have a choice. But they make it hard to pick the right one.

     

     

    When I’m having those days JB I try to remember the saying…. To grant me the Common sense to accept the things I cannot change, The Courage to change the things I can & the wisdom to know the difference. ?

    Unfortunately Sometimes the wisdom goes down the drain ?

    Yeah mate i remember those words from GA. And they do work for some people. They worked for me for a while.

    If it ever got out of hand again i would deffo go back to meetings.

    1
    1
    #58184
    Stevie25 WANTED $254
    Outlaw

    Haz40 wrote:

    Stevie25 wrote:

    Haz40 wrote:

    It’s like the people who say alcoholics and gambling addicts don’t have an addiction it’s an illness. In other words that implies to me not their fault. Gambling in my family is hereditary so can’t be my fault right. I was born a gambler with this illness. Load of bollox i say. Yes i may have an addictive personality but i made these choices no one forced me. The adverts,  fobts, flashing lights, the videos. I know everything I’ve done over the years is my fault and i have to take responsibility for that and so should others end of.

    Hi Eightblack… I was writing a long post but to be honest I can’t be arsed this morning.. Yes your correct ? Brother.

    There’s plenty of help & Support groups out there for addicts, it’s lucky we have that in the UK. ? And most off the EU. ?

    Hi Haz…This old argument lol mate.

    Dont take offence to how people define their addiction, it’s there choice. Some will say its a illness because they are in treatment and it’s a better way for them to define it. And as long as they have an understanding that it’s treatable they have a good chance to kick it.

    On the other hand Some will use the “Illness” to commit scumbaggery… I tend to see the person & If their looking for actual help to recover then I’ll help, if their upto B.S. me then they receive B.S. in return.

    Were all different & that’s the beauty of life.

    Ive learned not to expect anything in life, then I don’t get disappointed/Let down as much, and that helps me greatly.

    So I see the Illness argument as just something that can upset me, so I don’t tend to go there often. I see you as a online friend and am only saying don’t let it upset you brother because when us addicts get upset we can do damage to ourself’s.

    Enjoy your day Peeps & be lucky ????

     

    If that’s a short post I’d hate to read one of your long ones lol. I’m at work at 10.30 wouldn’t have time to read it.??.  I will try and enjoy my day and you enjoy yours. Have a good one mate.

    I know lol…What can I say.. ?

    I should have just posted “Don’t let the bastards grind you down” ???

    #58200
    Gecksy WANTED $17
    Outlaw

    Eightblack wrote:

    Addiction exists, Everything is OK in moderation and its down to the individual to change, no one else.

    Sometimes, for reasons unknown to myself I will gamble way more than I should, and don’t win. The casino existing makes this possible, but is it their fault? No, it’s mine.

    every day I buy a minimum of a four pack from my local shop.. The Indian guy sells them to me everyday sometimes 8 sometimes 16, is it his fault that I have a drinking problem? No, I’m an adult and am making my own bad decisions.

    On the flip side there are people who enjoy a drink every now and again and an affordable flutter on the slots and have no negative consequences, does my bad behavior mean they shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy it responsibley? Because it’s availability might fuck people like me up? No. We all need to take responsibility for our actions regardless how painful it is to admit that you and no-one else spent a month’s wages in 20mins or drank so much you blacked out and end up in court. Its still your fault. Its hard to accept your own fuck ups and its so much easier to blame others but we all have them, we all need to take ownership of them. At that point and only that point can you begin to rebuild.

    For context I’m an ex drug addict, borderline alcoholic and a compulsive gambler, I understand the beast and I battle it as best I can.

    This post hit home with me a lot especially the last paragraph. I’ve not managed to curb any of the three addictions mentioned and at times do lose control of one or more of them.

    Only I can change it, there’s help and guidance out there of course but it’s on me to choose not to have the bet or take a swig.

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 17 total)