Profile : Haz40

I’ll definitely have a look later. Probably half ten ish. ??

Sounds fun. I remember in the arcade about 15 years ago there was a game with a massive screen where you trained and raced a horse. £2 a go and you’d print the ticket off as this was your horse for the future. Did prove a bit expensive. You had to choose what to feed them and you couldn’t whip them too much as they didn’t like it lol.

Ezekiel2517 wrote:

Haz40 wrote:

This davo bloke has just been on rollas forum called him an affliate piece of shit and said play time is over mother fucker. Get the feeling there is more to come with this at some point. Btw after his one and only comment he then left.

You got a link to that mate??

It wasn’t him mate. It was a fake troll. I did put another post up.

Seedy wrote:

Wow this is still going strong I see lol takes me a hour just to catch up and all I’ve done is go sleep.

On the plus side no people calling names I dont think this morning lol

Yet ?. The day is young there is still plenty of time. It’s early. No one is in their rhythm yet. ??

argyl53 wrote:

Well I’m being thorough because there’s a lot going in the gaming industry which is questionable at best and criminal at worst. I’ve never said gambling is a totally clean business, just that in the UK market the games are not rigged and casinos can’t influence how they play or when they pay out. I make this point because contrary to JB’s and awesomex’s frequent accusations, I’m not partisan, I’m not pro-the-casinos. If someone wants to show me convincing evidence games in the UK are rigged, I’ll be frigging delighted because I’ll suddenly have a solid case to sue and get back 15 years of gambling losses. Difference is I draw my conclusions from evidence, whereas they start with an ideological belief and then try to find and cherry-pick evidence which fits that position and disregard anything which doesn’t. That’s zealotry, that’s devotion, that’s being what JB calls a sheeple.

I’m pulling your leg ?. Sometimes I’m left wondering which month year or even decade this ” rigged slot topic ” will end. Not that i mind. It’s a good read and you can see the passion in the posts from jb and the calm controlled responses from yourself.

argyl53 wrote:

Look fellas, I’m a newbie but I’ve been reading through this thread and I just wanted to say I think this Argyl geezer speaks a lot of sense. He’s obviously super intelligent, I wouldn’t be surprised if his IQ was around 181. And he clearly knows his stuff about gambling and the laws and regulation and all that. I think you should think about what he says.

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Aww nuts, I meant to post this from my other account

Back on topic, for me I’d say the power is with the consumer. In a way there’s nothing wrong with making YouTube videos to promote casinos by showing the games on demo play, or with a casino funded account. It’s not like it changes anything about the games or how they play. Ethically I do think if you do that as opposed to gambling for real with your own money, you should be honest and say it’s what you’re doing, but I don’t think it’s an obligation. Either way for me as the viewer, it’s pretty obvious if you’re promoting shady casinos with shady games, or playing on demo / with funds which aren’t yours. Like Paul says, there are some reactions you just can’t easily fake. So when I spot people like Roshtein, another one we’ve been talking about recently, when I look at how he plays, where he plays, and his reactions, I don’t believe it’s real and I subsequently don’t watch him. I also wouldn’t dream of using any casino he promoted.

I’ve never said there isn’t any shady practice at all in the gambling industry, just that online games under UK licensing and regulation aren’t rigged. Shady practices which definitely do happen in the industry are:

1. Unfair games from unregulated, unscrupulous vendors and casinos outside UK regulation, either with lower RTP than stated or non random results.

2. The use of dubious, deliberately obscured terms and conditions and “small print”, particularly with the use of bonus funds or winnings from bonuses, to delay, limit or void paying out winnings. *When it’s clearly stated in the T&C, I don’t regard this as shady, to be honest as a player you are a fool to not read the terms of any online casino on which you deposit. I do regard it as shady if these terms were not stated, or deliberately obfuscated / made hard to find.

3. Offering high profile affiliates funded accounts which mimic real play, real deposits and real withdrawals, but the affiliate doesn’t actually own the balance or accounts.

4. Backroom deals to do things like promote certain games or offer player incentives on certain games.

5. Encouraging further gambling, ignoring problem gambling patterns or failing to adequately investigate unusual account activity or accepting money believed to be the proceeds of crime, or without passing AML checks.

Do you think you covered everything or did you miss anything out. ?

I’ve said many times i don’t believe these streamers. Never have done. Only 2 i trust simple.