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[Nixinichols WANTED $2 Outlaw]

so ive been playing this on coral and truthfully i think the game is pants out of 22 features i had about 4 of them pay more than 100x.

my warning to you guys is play it responsibly especially if you buy features…

i know it plays different for everyone, so just be carefull when playing..

 

Good Luck to all that have a go 🙂

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

I did manage a 200x on it after getting lots of shite and they were all on £10 buys except for the last tilted £60 buy which landed 5 bonuses and still only paid 50% back. The 200x came on the second session which still left me down on it for that session too. Very disappointing.

[Green2711 WANTED $492 Outlaw]

I’d have to agree mate. I blasted through £20 playing 10p spins and the bonus refused to land so I paid another £20 to buy the feature and it gave me jacks and paid £4. I gave it another go after that on low stakes again and the bonus landed within 20 spins and gave me the scarab and proceeded I pay me 90p. Not bothering with it again.

[blueyes WANTED $80 Outlaw]

The base game can pay ok but goes on dry spells. The bonus buys are appalling on this maybe even worse than Genie. I bought a fair few the other day and the majority returned about 20% or less of the buy cost… Do not bonus buy on this.

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

I’ve probably bought around 30 to 35 features so far on this on free play, and no word of a lie I think only two or three actually profited. Obviously the potential is insane, but it’s obvious the RTP is saved for those huge full screen wins.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Yea, it’s not very random.

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

Oh, it’s definitely random.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbq1znwxDQ

forward to 23:35 or click here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erbq1znwxDQ?t=1415

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

Haha, I did enjoy that first video.

I will say, I’m not certain on how the 100k Drop bonus operates, whether it is a true random outcome at each stage (essentially piling money onto a 25% pie gamble, followed by another 25% pie gamble, followed by a 33% pie gamble, followed by a 50% pie gamble), or whether it is pre-determined on that spin, by the RNG, to pay out a maximum of x. I’m not even sure if the latter is possible under UK gambling laws, but I’m chucking it out there as a possibility.

If it is a true random outcome, which I’m pretty convinced that it is, you will only get to the end with all of the money 1 in every 96 bonuses, on average. It could be less, or it could be significantly more than that. That’s a lot of bonuses, even for a slot like this that can be quite generous. The odds of getting to the end can be improved in the player’s favour by distributing the money across multiple areas. The best possible outcome (by distributing all of the money across all of the available areas, minus the one that you are forced to keep blank), still only would let you, on average, reach the end 1 in every 5 or 6 bonuses.

Further evidence to support this theory, is that, under true random conditions, this bonus will only pay on average 21x. Given the frequency of the bonus, that feels about right to fit in nicely with the RTP. It just feels much worse (or ‘rigged’) due to the stage by stage nature of the gamble, just like how reaching 27 spins and 10x on Viking’s Unleashed seems more achievable than it is, just because the pie gamble for each individual gamble is so far in the player’s favour. But cumulatively, the odds aren’t good at all.

So yeah, I’m not completely sure on how the bonus is determined on this slot, but my guess would definitely be the true random route. There isn’t really any reason for the provider not to do it this way.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

I will say, I’m not certain on how the 100k Drop bonus operates, whether it is a true random outcome

You mean, it took a video of bandits one of many many numerous slates with the average joe that something is or could be rigged, for you to drop the whole “everything is random because the commission says it has to be”.

We know it’s bs. We aren’t paranoid that it’s bs. We know it is.

Changing the reelset for the bonus game is just more rigging. Remember I’m not saying there isn’t some sort of random thing featuring but the rules are simply a smoke screen for the “this slot is random” lie. No matter what, to achieve an RTP, no matter the numbers, there has to be some sort of rigging. Otherwise you could get on the yacht hoping for the sundrenched shores of the caribbean and end up rowing around your back garden. Meaning a slot could easily bankrupt a company. The allegation on the sign saying the slot is random. The bs being that no spin is connected. That’s why the kings totally disappear on DHV Gates. RIGGED.

[Haz40 WANTED $1,166 Outlaw]

Now you know what happened when i said you don’t get a skull on reel 1 with gates when you get plenty of wilds to bio. ??

[Biohazard WANTED $675 Outlaw]

What are you talking about? We’re talking about bonuses here… bonuses are widely pre-determined by most if not all providers, that’s nothing new. It’s the outcome of every unique spin that is random. Please stop mixing up individual spins and a full bonus (end to end) as it harms the integrity of this debate.

No matter what, to achieve an RTP, no matter the numbers, there has to be some sort of rigging.

? I strongly advise you to do some research on the law of large numbers (or the law of averages, as it is commonly but incorrectly generalised to). I’ll help you get started:

In probability theory, the law of large numbers (LLN) is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed.

The LLN is important because it guarantees stable long-term results for the averages of some random events. For example, while a casino may lose money in a single spin of the roulette wheel, its earnings will tend towards a predictable percentage over a large number of spins. Any winning streak by a player will eventually be overcome by the parameters of the game. It is important to remember that the law only applies (as the name indicates) when a large number of observations is considered. There is no principle that a small number of observations will coincide with the expected value or that a streak of one value will immediately be “balanced” by the others (see the gambler’s fallacy).

I wouldn’t say you’re necessarily paranoid – you’re just wrong.

[Mr Mr B WANTED $395 Blocked]

Bio, you don’t get to put words in my mouth or dictate anything here. You can try and swerve the agenda being divisive but it won’t work with me.

“This slot is random” – public notice on many slot machines. Moving from a networked physical slot machine with a pc inside, to a pc with a browser window changes what ? Nothing from my point of view.

But at least you are now happily admitting that a bonus is rigged. Either you or agryl stated that every spin is 100% individual and random. For that to be true, they CANNOT be connected by RTP, regardless of how the RTP is fathomed. Random and RTP are not 100% separated. Therefore there IS rigging, in EVERY slot, on EVERY spin. It doesn’t matter if it’s a weighted dice (structured reelset) or not.

Are you understanding EXACTLY what I am saying yet ? I said I’m not paranoid, Please don’t play with that word when talking to me.

[eejit101 WANTED $312 Outlaw]

Mr B wrote:

Bio, you don’t get to put words in my mouth or dictate anything here. You can try and swerve the agenda being divisive but it won’t work with me.

“This slot is random” – public notice on many slot machines. Moving from a networked physical slot machine with a pc inside, to a pc with a browser window changes what ? Nothing from my point of view.

But at least you are now happily admitting that a bonus is rigged. Either you or agryl stated that every spin is 100% individual and random. For that to be true, they CANNOT be connected by RTP, regardless of how the RTP is fathomed. Random and RTP are not 100% separated. Therefore there IS rigging, in EVERY slot, on EVERY spin. It doesn’t matter if it’s a weighted dice (structured reelset) or not.

Are you understanding EXACTLY what I am saying yet ? I said I’m not paranoid, Please don’t play with that word when talking to me.

This doesnt make full sense. I think i understand what you are saying though.

 

I assume you mean that each spin is a pre-programmed result. The spin “visual ending”, or “happy ending” if you prefer, is programmed. What isnt programmed is the actual odds of hitting that specific “Random number” which will give you that visual representation?

 

If so – You are half correct. Its exactly how its worked. Jammin Jars came under a bit of fire for this for “only” have just under 2million seperate winning visualisations for their game. That doesnt mean the result isnt a randomly selected choice of possible values, its just the image isnt random.

 

Rolling a Dice is random. If its comes up 6 its luck. Just because its the same 6 on the dice as it was last time you rolled it doesnt make it any less random.

 

The Gates point is accurate though. That bonus isnt random. Doesnt matter what symbol you get its already decided. People get skulls more if they are due a “bad bonus” as its easier visually to not put in as many skulls. Its predetermined in advance what it will pay. Only the megaways bonuses are close to random.

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