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  • #9402
    Crazy Fruits WANTED $0
    Outlaw

    Hi folks! New to the forum, thought I’d ask some questions of those more knowledgeable than I – things I’ve often thought about whilst watching the Bandit’s videos

    1. On picking slots like Secret of the Stones, is it pre-determined or a random selection? I’d like to believe it’s random – it’s certainly presented that way – but…

    2. Does the icon on High Voltage make any difference at all? I’ve seen high-paying Skulls and low paying Q’s etc but that’s only over a small sample

    3. How often do other players give slots to bonus? I feel like if you’re giving it more than 150/200 spins, even if you get a bonus you’re lucky to get back to starting balance!

    4. Do many of you play at £2/£3 a spin? As The Bandit often says, it feels like nothing when you watch the spins fly past, but that’s like a pint a spin! I think it would hurt me to play at those levels!

    Looking forward to the chat!

    #9404
    Seedy WANTED $1,243
    Sheriff

    Hi, I will answer what I think about your questions 🙂

    1. I think all slots are random and if they were not then I’m sure authorities would be all over them for fixing stuff.

    2. Again this could be related to question 1 as in its random so it means you could still get a decent win on say bells or skulls but there are less of them on a reel as compared to says jacks or queens.

    3. I find that most games give bonuses out around 50 to 200 spins but I have seen 1000+ spins before now with no bonus so again it’s random and down to luck.

    4. I play to what I can afford to deposit if my play money is 40 – 60 I will start on 30p to 40p stake if I manage to get to around £200 I up it to around 60p – £1 stake.

    Just remember to not chase losses and have fun playing as its a very expensive hobby 🙂

    #9407
    eejit101 WANTED $312
    Outlaw

    Crazy Fruits wrote:

    Hi folks! New to the forum, thought I’d ask some questions of those more knowledgeable than I – things I’ve often thought about whilst watching the Bandit’s videos

    1. On picking slots like Secret of the Stones, is it pre-determined or a random selection? I’d like to believe it’s random – it’s certainly presented that way – but…

    2. Does the icon on High Voltage make any difference at all? I’ve seen high-paying Skulls and low paying Q’s etc but that’s only over a small sample

    3. How often do other players give slots to bonus? I feel like if you’re giving it more than 150/200 spins, even if you get a bonus you’re lucky to get back to starting balance!

    4. Do many of you play at £2/£3 a spin? As The Bandit often says, it feels like nothing when you watch the spins fly past, but that’s like a pint a spin! I think it would hurt me to play at those levels!

    Looking forward to the chat!

     

    I work in iGaming, for a casino and slot creator… and can answer honestly and with facts….

     

    1 – Its pre-determined. The entire basis of a spin, or a chance selection, is not possible. When you spin the wheel he RNG decides what you win on that spin to keep it in line with the slot RTP % and odds levels. The picking you have is simply a mirage. Thats why on Blueprint and other similar games with “pick me” bonuses – you often see the picking stop at a fixed amount divisible by 10 or 5. Its programmed that way.

    2 – When this slot came out it used to. However in newer versions they have lowered the variance of the “Gates” bonus, creating a slightly more level playing field. As you can see on youtube in the last 6 months, and from Bandits attempts, there is a lot more bonuses now and a lot less 4000x hits.

    3 – For me it depends. If i am winning in the base game, ill stay for ages. If im losing ill often swap to table games or another slot, and return to it later. FACT – It makes no difference how often you spin before a bonus, each spin has the same chance at hitting the feature. Even after 1,500 dead spins on Dead or Alive, the odds of getting the bonus on the next one remain at 1 in 151 spins. with a win 3 out of 10 spins.

    4 – Depends how much i am up. I usually deposit around 300, starting anywhere from 60p to 2 quid depending on the game. My problem is i have access to the information on the slots, so I know that Dead of Alive bonuses 1 in 151 spins, and I know White Rabbit will retrigger only 1 in 29 attempts. So it isnt as fun as it used to be!

     

    Hope that helps.

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    #9443
    The Bandit WANTED $5,376
    El Bandito

    1 in 29 attempts the piece of shit, i swear i have gone loads more haha 😀

    #9903
    ImperialDragon WANTED $69
    Outlaw

    +1 on what Eejit said about being pre-determined.  The easiest way to explain this is on Reel King, as each game generates a unique game ID at the top left corner of the playing area.  That ID determines if it’s a win or not, and if it becomes a feature, the ID will determine how much the scroll(s) go for.  The ID also determines how the win is implemented.  Let’s say it’s a win and it’s £10.  In Reel King on £1 stake, a £10 win can be displayed as 5 kings on 1 payline or 3 queens on 5 paylines or it can be implemented as a 3 yellow sevens on the scroll feature.  Many many many permutations of displaying a £10 win.

    #9927
    Biohazard WANTED $675
    Outlaw

    1. Guys there is actually an exception to the pre-determined rule. Some features on some slots are based on the picks that you make. Most are pre-determined, yes, but there are definitely some that are pick-based. This breaks the ID/payout rule, but so do many things (e.g. the feature you pick on DHV, or gambling a feature on Extra Chilli). Often the slots that reveal what was behind the other picks that you didn’t choose actually are pick related (not all). A good example of this, I believe, is the Fort Knox feature on IGT machines in land-based casinos (eejit – can you confirm this?).

    Various sources back up what I’m saying here, but feel free to prove me wrong haha! Pretty much everything else is pre-determined. The thing is, let’s face it, it’s all pre-determined anyway, because there’s no strategy to your picks, so the laws of averages plays the same role here that spinning the reels does.

    2. I’ve got no way of knowing for sure, it would make sense for BTG to build into the programming that higher paying symbols (skulls, bells etc.) are given as the wild when the pre-determined payout is low, and lower paying symbols when it’s high. But in my experience, some of my best wins have come from the skull, and some of my worst from 9/10/J, so who knows!

    3. It actually doesn’t matter if you carry on playing the slot, or change to another, every spin is random. The only advantage to moving to another slot is if you’re after a bonus so you move to a slot that has a higher bonus-hit rate I guess. I used to stay on a slot until I bonus’d it, but now I tend to mix it up a bit more after a couple of hundred spins solely so that I don’t get bored.

    4. Depends how crazy I’m feeling, how long I’ve been playing and how much I deposit! On a casual session I tend to stick to 50p/£1, on a heavier session closer to £2, but I rarely go higher than that unless I’m tilting and chasing a big win (bad I know…).

    Hope this helps!

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