Profile : Mr B

Rbreen91 wrote:

I made about 8 valid points and was debating the aspects of it. If you want to have a DEBATE, then you get both sides. Not just your opinion confirmed by people who see things your way.

 

Be easier to have a debate with a brick wall. This guy only wants to “debate” in a fucking echo chamber.

Let me explain this to you calmly rbreen.

This debate is about the bigger picture, not me. I have no ego involved here. I’m happy to see and discuss both sides and have been of that stance for a very long time. I have no time for people who do not want the debate. You’d think I would be puzzled that people are actively saying they don’t want this debate here.  Eejit said “The point is why should there be a debate?” because Eejit doesn’t want this debate and when that was clear, I stopped wasting my energy on anything he or she has to say.

Take a chill pill (metaphorically) because I won’t be deliberately lowering myself to abusive levels nor will I be making personal attacks on anyone.

I will however sit and watch while the same people who keep breaking rules are given free reign while others are chastised. I’ve done this so many times over the years, it’s like water off a ducks back for me. I have no idea why you are so angry but I hope you can calm yourself down.

Eightblack wrote:

You’ll find corruption and evil in anything that involves money particularly a lot of money and particularly something that has an addictive element

As far as ive gathered Mr B your an anti capitalist so therefore you don’t see profits at the hight of importance, but big businesses do and provided they’re acting within the law of the land they don’t really care if some people take their product too far be it beer, cigarettes, porn or gambling they care about the money

 

It’s an inconvenient truth but it’s the world we live in I’m afraid

It’s not that I don’t see profits at the height of importance, it’s that I see a hell of a lot of collateral damage with convenient blind eyes turned to it. I have a huge problem with people holding up a “we care” sign and stabbing humanity in the back. Alas eejit has successfully and single handedly ruined this debate.

I won’t be posting anything else until he or she is educated by the rules.

Argyl, I’m talking about an industry wide ban with HELP that is only available once.

Eejit, I have only read the first thing you wrote and gave up reading the rest. Feel free to email bandit to have the debate removed and banned. Pretty sure I covered ‘trying to ruin a debate’ in my opening post.

but again I will note that you claim you work for the gambling industry, so it comes as no surprise that you don’t want this debate to exist. Thus a tiny little bit of proof that the industry DOES NOT care.

****** you didnt read his post but you tried to claim he is out to ruin a debate it was his opinion sort your head out *****

eejit101 wrote:

What more can the UKGC/MGA/SS Do?

You put layers in for deposits for credit checks, AML for withdrawals, KYC for both after certain amounts, RG teams who call you if your level increased by 40%, Source of wealth for over 5k, Payment teams who watch for fraud, DPA and GDPR for protection of data, Self exlcusion, limits for dpeosits, bets, loss, wins and time, and now restrictions on game speeds and bet sizing.

Give me a good idea and ill back it. But I cant think of much else thats needed. The MGA audit we had cost us a large sum as our loyalty checks didnt include total loss for the day. We implemented that pretty damn fast.

Ive been trying to think for ages, and aside from literally asking for bank statements for a year and allowing only that method for depositing…. what else is there? Interview? Affadavit?

Recently I proposed an idea where if someone gambles themselves into poverty/distress they should be helped AND completely banned from gambling either for life OR until they can prove they have both the ability and control of that ability. I’m not saying as that, it would work but at least it’s an idea to start.

I posted a portion of my private life recently which basically showed that if I were to ask you to borrow me £5 and you said yea, then I have a condition, that you don’t suffer from doing so. That’s because I care. It highlighted the real side of what caring is.

As opposed to the nothing that is provided when someone makes the mistake of ruining their life, destroying their family, losing their life to suicide or the risk there of.

I find the whole industry has this “we care” sign but see zero evidence of aftercare for the true reality.

Again, I’m not saying exactly what would work but at lease we can have this debate and look at the darker realer issues and what could be possible to change it. However, the idea I suggest above is two part and one should never happen without the other. If it’s a viable idea, then cool, if not, let’s debate further, let’s carry on advocating.

It’s a misnomer anyway. A lot of crime doesn’t get reported. Please don’t ask for the proof of this because it comes in the form of public opinion…. tonnes of it and a lot based on self experience or relative experience, friends/family.

I agree that a lot of gambling is funded by crime. I consider I come from an average background and if that’s the case then there is a hell of a lot of crime funded gambling.

Of course, the industry will deny everything. Others might not believe it either. I know different. But it isn’t the main point here.